Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-cordova-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-cordova-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E3C55E615 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 22:45:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 66000 invoked by uid 500); 3 Jan 2013 22:45:01 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cordova-dev-archive@cordova.apache.org Received: (qmail 65973 invoked by uid 500); 3 Jan 2013 22:45:01 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cordova.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@cordova.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cordova.apache.org Received: (qmail 65965 invoked by uid 99); 3 Jan 2013 22:45:01 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 03 Jan 2013 22:45:01 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=FRT_ADOBE2,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [208.65.73.34] (HELO mhs060cnc.rim.net) (208.65.73.34) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 03 Jan 2013 22:44:54 +0000 X-AuditID: 0a41282f-b7f8c6d000004b29-f0-50e609d0e294 Received: from XCT108CNC.rim.net (xct108cnc.rim.net [10.65.161.208]) by mhs060cnc.rim.net (SBG) with SMTP id 4D.4A.19241.0D906E05; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 16:44:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from XCT110CNC.rim.net (10.65.161.210) by XCT108CNC.rim.net (10.65.161.208) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.318.1; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 17:44:31 -0500 Received: from XMB117CNC.rim.net ([fe80::24f3:cc30:b596:7ca0]) by XCT110CNC.rim.net ([::1]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.001; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 17:44:31 -0500 From: Ken Wallis To: "dev@cordova.apache.org" Subject: RE: Review of Core Platforms Thread-Topic: Review of Core Platforms Thread-Index: Ac3p+z7z8+Fjjh1VQcyQNQ8MqasAxwABQMXtAAsdMYD//64rqw== Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 22:44:31 +0000 Message-ID: <42C7A58253BA3C44BE8534C00002182A5158CF@XMB117CNC.rim.net> References: <42C7A58253BA3C44BE8534C00002182A51571D@XMB117CNC.rim.net>, In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US, en-CA Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.65.160.248] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFjrCKsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsXC5bjwgu4FzmcBBv8niVss+NTJ7MDosab1 AFMAY1QDo01SYklZcGZ6nr6dTWJeXn5JYkmqQkpqcbKtkk9qemKOQkBRZllicqWCS2Zxck5i Zm5qkZJCZoqtkomSQkFOYnJqbmpeia1SYkFBal6Kkh2XAgawASrLzFNIzUvOT8nMS7dV8gz2 17WwMLXUNVSy003o5Mk4u28LW0GDcsXap4eZGhjbZbsYOTkkBEwkzi/+wwJhi0lcuLeerYuR i0NIYBWjxIJ37ewQzgpGiU8tvewgVUICsxklnn7jALHZBJQkJj5vYAWxRQRMJX5M3MkEYgsL qEqc3zKPHSKuJvH63yMo20niy8rFYDUsAioSaxp3sIHYvAJuEk/X/4Wanyqx4dxBsDingLbE m/5dYPWMArISa+esBNvFLCAucevJfCaIqwUkluw5zwxhi0q8fPyPFcJWlJg/9xIbRL2BxPtz 85khbG2JZQtfM0PsFZQ4OfMJC8ReGYkpnzuZJzCKz0KyYhaS9llI2mchaV/AyLKKUTA3o9jA zCA5L1mvKDNXLy+1ZBMjOFlo6O9gfPve4hCjAAejEg9v0N+nAUKsiWXFlbmHGCU4mJVEeN/d BgrxpiRWVqUW5ccXleakFh9idAWG0ERmKe7kfGAiyyuJNzYwwM1REueV7L0cICSQDkxX2amp BalFMHOYODhB9nBJiRQDk05qUWJpSUY8KDXGFwOTo1QD464ZTppLl8hpVX/nmVBjv3qNg1R0 zTWz2zKRmZFTd6cdVPWv5OQ673Bi8YMjoh53z822Zv9mGHhQ3WlBBG+0crHs0u3/FK2eNCw6 GJOu4+J65OMK5tkHM+67fq86ZKbZ+8F37eEFG9zd15w11pFhlHuVfm3dvmYF0d9tFzmYTzdc XVtZYVT9UYmlOCPRUIu5qDgRADtghApXAwAA X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Sounds like a plan. I'll do some digging on what plans we will have on publ= ishing market numbers, publically or otherwise. ;)=0A= =0A= Thanks.=0A= --=0A= =0A= Ken Wallis=0A= =0A= Product Manager =96 BlackBerry WebWorks=0A= =0A= Research In Motion=0A= =0A= (905) 629-4746 x14369=0A= =0A= ________________________________________=0A= From: Filip Maj [fil@adobe.com]=0A= Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 5:36 PM=0A= To: dev@cordova.apache.org=0A= Subject: Re: Review of Core Platforms=0A= =0A= Certainly, if RIM can provide some % numbers of people using each OS,=0A= that'd be helpful! Kind of like the Android OS pie chart breakdown of=0A= users across different OS versions.=0A= =0A= In the past, at some point we decided to stop supporting BB OS 5 and 4.6,= =0A= and removed those Cordova implementations. Just wanted to raise the idea=0A= of doing something similar for OS 7 and PlayBook once those two platforms= =0A= get to the same level of usage.=0A= =0A= On 1/3/13 2:21 PM, "Ken Wallis" wrote:=0A= =0A= >What does "schedule for removal mean"? Perhaps we can tie removal to=0A= >some specific metric that we might be able to assist with? BB7 will=0A= >remain a fairly large base of devices for a while, particularly in=0A= >emerging markets and enterprise, where I think we will continue to see a= =0A= >large focus on web-based mobile applications.=0A= >=0A= >While I wholeheartedly support BlackBerry 10 as the primary platform for= =0A= >new development, I would like to see support for BB7 continue while it=0A= >remains a large customer base.=0A= >=0A= >Thoughts?=0A= >=0A= >Thanks!=0A= >=0A= >--=0A= >=0A= >Ken Wallis=0A= >=0A= >Product Manager =AD BlackBerry WebWorks=0A= >=0A= >Research In Motion=0A= >=0A= >(905) 629-4746 x14369=0A= >=0A= >________________________________________=0A= >From: Filip Maj [fil@adobe.com]=0A= >Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 4:44 PM=0A= >To: dev@cordova.apache.org=0A= >Subject: Review of Core Platforms=0A= >=0A= >Our CorePlatforms wiki article [1] has this:=0A= >=0A= >----=0A= >=0A= >Core: These are the main platforms supported by the Apache Cordova=0A= >project.=0A= >=0A= >* iOS=0A= >* Android=0A= >* BlackBerry=0A= >* Windows Phone=0A= >* Bada=0A= >=0A= >Sunset: These are platforms considered to be on their way out of general= =0A= >consumer availability. We offer code, but not distribution of these=0A= >platforms.=0A= >=0A= >* Symbian=0A= >* webOS=0A= >=0A= >Sunrise: These are new platforms coming to Apache Cordova with some=0A= >development under way.=0A= >=0A= >* Tizen=0A= >* Qt=0A= >=0A= >Horizon: These are platforms that we hope to see supported by Apache=0A= >Cordova in the future!=0A= >=0A= >* B2G=0A= >=0A= >----=0A= >=0A= >=0A= >Some propositions + questions, all up for debate of course:=0A= >=0A= >- I'm not sure about Bada. Last I checked Bada's passing % of mobile-spec= =0A= >is fairly weak (some features are just not doable; correct me if I'm=0A= >wrong). I would like to propose that a platform is eligible for "Core" if= =0A= >they have >90% passing rate on mobile-spec. I would vote to move it into a= =0A= >new "Marginal" category, along with, say, cordova-mac or cordova-qt. Also,= =0A= >Bada-wac, how does this fit in?=0A= >- Where does the ubuntu phone fit into this?=0A= >- I would suggest we schedule removal of the BlackBerry 7 (java) and=0A= >Playbook (Air) implementations, and have our BlackBerry implementation be= =0A= >BB10 only moving forward.=0A= >- The "Windows Phone" category above covers both 7 and 8? What about=0A= >Windows 8?=0A= >=0A= >[1] http://wiki.apache.org/cordova/PlatformSupport=0A= >=0A= >=0A= >---------------------------------------------------------------------=0A= >This transmission (including any attachments) may contain confidential=0A= >information, privileged material (including material protected by the=0A= >solicitor-client or other applicable privileges), or constitute=0A= >non-public information. Any use of this information by anyone other than= =0A= >the intended recipient is prohibited. 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