Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-cordova-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-cordova-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8ACACE98E for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 22:21:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 95700 invoked by uid 500); 3 Jan 2013 22:21:55 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cordova-dev-archive@cordova.apache.org Received: (qmail 95671 invoked by uid 500); 3 Jan 2013 22:21:55 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cordova.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@cordova.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cordova.apache.org Received: (qmail 95659 invoked by uid 99); 3 Jan 2013 22:21:55 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 03 Jan 2013 22:21:55 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=FRT_ADOBE2,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [208.65.73.34] (HELO mhs060cnc.rim.net) (208.65.73.34) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 03 Jan 2013 22:21:47 +0000 X-AuditID: 0a41282f-b7f8c6d000004b29-f6-50e604661626 Received: from XCT107CNC.rim.net (xct107cnc.rim.net [10.65.161.207]) by mhs060cnc.rim.net (SBG) with SMTP id 31.B9.19241.66406E05; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 16:21:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from XCT113CNC.rim.net (10.65.161.213) by XCT107CNC.rim.net (10.65.161.207) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.318.1; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 17:21:25 -0500 Received: from XMB117CNC.rim.net ([fe80::24f3:cc30:b596:7ca0]) by XCT113CNC.rim.net ([::1]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.001; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 17:21:25 -0500 From: Ken Wallis To: "dev@cordova.apache.org" Subject: RE: Review of Core Platforms Thread-Topic: Review of Core Platforms Thread-Index: Ac3p+z7z8+Fjjh1VQcyQNQ8MqasAxwABQMXt Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 22:21:25 +0000 Message-ID: <42C7A58253BA3C44BE8534C00002182A51571D@XMB117CNC.rim.net> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US, en-CA Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.65.160.248] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFjrKKsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsXC5bjwvG4ay7MAg8et/BYLPnUyOzB6rGk9 wBTAGNXAaJOUWFIWnJmep29nk5iXl1+SWJKqkJJanGyr5JOanpijEFCUWZaYXKngklmcnJOY mZtapKSQmWKrZKKkUJCTmJyam5pXYquUWFCQmpeiZMelgAFsgMoy8xRS85LzUzLz0m2VPIP9 dS0sTC11DZXsdBM6eTImtG9lLZgkUnHh3iGmBsbtAl2MnBwSAiYSi78sYYSwxSQu3FvP1sXI xSEksIpR4vKGX6wQzgpGiY/P9rFAOLMZJU73v2MFaWETUJKY+LwBzBYRMJX4MXEnE4gtLKAq cX7LPHaIuJrE63+PoGwjibbZr8FqWARUJFas2McMYvMKuEnMm7KDDcQWEtCSOLVhJwuIzSmg LdG/ZxpYPaOArMTaOSvBdjELiEvcejKfCeJsAYkle84zQ9iiEi8f/2OFsBUl5s+9xAZRbyDx /tx8ZghbW2LZwtdQewUlTs58wgKxV0ZiyudO5gmM4rOQrJiFpH0WkvZZSNoXMLKsYhTMzSg2 MDNIzkvWK8rM1ctLLdnECE4XGvo7GN++tzjEKMDBqMTDG/T3aYAQa2JZcWXuIUYJDmYlEd53 t4FCvCmJlVWpRfnxRaU5qcWHGF2BITSRWYo7OR+YyvJK4o0NDHBzlMR5JXsvBwgJpAMTVnZq akFqEcwcJg5OkD1cUiLFwLSTWpRYWpIRD0qO8cXA9CjVwCgi33ufLZF5znX2ecdk9aL326kK Xg6cnnVeNI1191sr8W0yyitW3H7lpblII+S9sWLU0i1uAhXJ7av60yc8rKu1WGge9kzxKFvb +59qP+Y9u3aSvaPsqdVe+YW3bV7OvVXpJszN6/E2+Fi9TvKG9JzSuadr2W3YvuQ2VpdWM6wW Y7mi+Vv7hhJLcUaioRZzUXEiAFVkWyBYAwAA X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org What does "schedule for removal mean"? Perhaps we can tie removal to some s= pecific metric that we might be able to assist with? BB7 will remain a fair= ly large base of devices for a while, particularly in emerging markets and e= nterprise, where I think we will continue to see a large focus on web-based= mobile applications.=0A= =0A= While I wholeheartedly support BlackBerry 10 as the primary platform for new= development, I would like to see support for BB7 continue while it remains= a large customer base.=0A= =0A= Thoughts?=0A= =0A= Thanks!=0A= =0A= --=0A= =0A= Ken Wallis=0A= =0A= Product Manager =96 BlackBerry WebWorks=0A= =0A= Research In Motion=0A= =0A= (905) 629-4746 x14369=0A= =0A= ________________________________________=0A= From: Filip Maj [fil@adobe.com]=0A= Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 4:44 PM=0A= To: dev@cordova.apache.org=0A= Subject: Review of Core Platforms=0A= =0A= Our CorePlatforms wiki article [1] has this:=0A= =0A= ----=0A= =0A= Core: These are the main platforms supported by the Apache Cordova project.= =0A= =0A= * iOS=0A= * Android=0A= * BlackBerry=0A= * Windows Phone=0A= * Bada=0A= =0A= Sunset: These are platforms considered to be on their way out of general=0A= consumer availability. We offer code, but not distribution of these=0A= platforms.=0A= =0A= * Symbian=0A= * webOS=0A= =0A= Sunrise: These are new platforms coming to Apache Cordova with some=0A= development under way.=0A= =0A= * Tizen=0A= * Qt=0A= =0A= Horizon: These are platforms that we hope to see supported by Apache=0A= Cordova in the future!=0A= =0A= * B2G=0A= =0A= ----=0A= =0A= =0A= Some propositions + questions, all up for debate of course:=0A= =0A= - I'm not sure about Bada. Last I checked Bada's passing % of mobile-spec= =0A= is fairly weak (some features are just not doable; correct me if I'm=0A= wrong). I would like to propose that a platform is eligible for "Core" if= =0A= they have >90% passing rate on mobile-spec. I would vote to move it into a= =0A= new "Marginal" category, along with, say, cordova-mac or cordova-qt. Also,= =0A= Bada-wac, how does this fit in?=0A= - Where does the ubuntu phone fit into this?=0A= - I would suggest we schedule removal of the BlackBerry 7 (java) and=0A= Playbook (Air) implementations, and have our BlackBerry implementation be= =0A= BB10 only moving forward.=0A= - The "Windows Phone" category above covers both 7 and 8? What about=0A= Windows 8?=0A= =0A= [1] http://wiki.apache.org/cordova/PlatformSupport=0A= =0A= --------------------------------------------------------------------- This transmission (including any attachments) may contain confidential infor= mation, privileged material (including material protected by the solicitor-c= lient or other applicable privileges), or constitute non-public information.= Any use of this information by anyone other than the intended recipient is= prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please immedia= tely reply to the sender and delete this information from your system. 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