Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-callback-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-callback-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3AF639927 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 16:37:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 22541 invoked by uid 500); 13 Apr 2012 16:37:38 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-callback-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 22513 invoked by uid 500); 13 Apr 2012 16:37:38 -0000 Mailing-List: contact callback-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: callback-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list callback-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 22505 invoked by uid 99); 13 Apr 2012 16:37:38 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 16:37:38 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of paul.beusterien@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.213.175] (HELO mail-yx0-f175.google.com) (209.85.213.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 16:37:33 +0000 Received: by yenm3 with SMTP id m3so1785001yen.6 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:37:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=0XXcZW3eXJr/8Z3nVbEOwSRer+YZQpZ9M3SOhgEFoH0=; b=wvxHXmAhpfDg/vFdWNp90Qn043ABk58Qy2fQhyDtfYehc2t3jBhlQuH0uiQQ6gsyLd yR29OAR8Icv+TiCvpsU0GPTLU2K2pEvntFJmYD7hNCOqQyaPKFb6kSZUsPnOzdq0L+CY uq3OGWVxlrFSDzvB0aKYP04QKnTmnCX+mO1slCYeZixKfef7fpwp8fCyzipBo5MjPE/O 4IPTJlyQTPqUSZLx98F9odSjH0WUu+gubdfniwi+S4DfFLeU5oMN/pU50x7EZxCVjBD+ R2AZx3were9bb8SpHllPQehP2TWqrAn9jVQg8Vi1LDaq0mxg8GNdhw/PJtzZ1+RBr8g8 GC2Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.46.198 with SMTP id x6mr2236849igm.44.1334335032983; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:37:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.53.20 with HTTP; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:37:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:37:12 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 1.6.1 From: Paul Beusterien To: callback-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9340ba5a7020804bd921590 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --14dae9340ba5a7020804bd921590 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My concern is more meta than any single release. It's about the PhoneGap reputation erosion caused by degradation of quality and usability in recent releases. Paul On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Brian LeRoux wrote: > And, one more thing, if you have concerns about 1.7 lets start a thread > for 1.7 > > On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:18 AM, Brian LeRoux wrote: > > I wholeheartedly disagree Paul. These are fixes not changes. > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Paul Beusterien > > wrote: > >> "Which is a good thing" > >> > >> For who ?!?! > >> > >> Definitely not for users and prospective adopters, for whom the rapid > pace > >> of releases with new bugs, usability changes, misleading documentation > and > >> new configurations is a barrier to adoption. > >> > >> Paul > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 8:42 AM, Brian LeRoux wrote: > >> > >>> Ok, everyone back away from the ledge! We discussed 1.7 as a bug fix > >>> only release. (Excepting possibly CordovaView which I think might be > >>> why Joe is concerned.) Again only bug fixes, and docs updates. The > >>> date is arbitrary but the benefit is a release that is all about > >>> hardening. > >>> > >>> Looks like we might even ship a point release between now and then. > >>> Which is a good thing: not a bad thing. > >>> > >>> The longer a delay between releases the more things that can creep in > >>> delaying further and making each point a monolith which increases our > >>> odds of a bad release. [1] > >>> > >>> [1] > >>> > http://phonegap.com/2012/04/12/rolling-releases-how-apache-cordova-becomes-phonegap-and-why/ > >>> > >>> > >>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Patrick Mueller > >>> wrote: > >>> > On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 11:24, Brian LeRoux wrote: > >>> > > >>> >> For two bugs? Let's not get too excited. > >>> >> > >>> > > >>> > from: http://wiki.apache.org/cordova/CuttingReleases > >>> > > >>> > 2012 **Estimated** Release Schedule > >>> > ... > >>> > * 1.7.x, Apr 30 > >>> > > >>> > So, we're on track to ship 1.7 in ~two weeks? > >>> > > >>> > -- > >>> > Patrick Mueller > >>> > http://muellerware.org > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Paul Beusterien > >> http://www.mobiledevelopersolutions.com > -- Paul Beusterien 1-650-918-7074 skype:paul.beusterien http://www.mobiledevelopersolutions.com --14dae9340ba5a7020804bd921590--