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Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 17:34:31 -0500
From: "Jesse McConnell" <jesse.mcconnell@gmail.com>
To: dev@continuum.apache.org
Subject: Re: [jira] Updated: (CONTINUUM-1669) User Interface improvements
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>
> > and LGPL would be fine so long as we are not modifying underlying
> > code...at
> > least that is what the MyGWT guys say on their license page..
>
>
> It isn't possible to use LGPL code/library in an ASF product


grumble...stoopid LGPL


>
> Emmanuel
>
> >
> >
> > jesse
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Emmanuel Venisse <
> > emmanuel.venisse@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Jesse McConnell <
> > > jesse.mcconnell@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > the other thing to consider about GWT is that the basics are just
> > 'good
> > > > enough' to get very far in the design and layout of the page...to
> > really
> > > > get
> > > > a sweet looking webapp you _really_ need to start looking into other
> > > > component libraries like GWT-Ext or MyGWT both of which I think are
> > > > license
> > > > friendly.
> > >
> > >
> > > I wanted to look at them, but they are under LGPL :(
> > >
> > >
> > > > It is also easy to get into just as convoluted mess as we have with
> > the
> > > > webwork setup.  Also on the table in this layer of design is the
> > > messaging
> > > > bus of the webapp client side where I would recommend the setup I
> have
> > > > been
> > > > working with on the jetty side of things where we would use cometd
> for
> > a
> > > > long-polling connection, then the server side can initiate push
> events
> > > > back
> > > > to the client when something happens that the client should be
> > notified
> > > > about.  The communication back and forth is in JSON which is a
> simple
> > > > format
> > > > for data going back and forth across the wire.  Its a pretty nice
> > setup
> > > > and
> > > > scales nicely.
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't know cometd.
> > > About JSON,  I think it  would be good to use it because it is a
> > > "standard"
> > > that can be used by lot of tools: GWT, Adobe AIR, YUI...
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Lots of things to consider once we decide to reinvent the ui.
> > >
> > >
> > > sure
> > >
> > >
> > > > jesse
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Emmanuel Venisse <
> > > > emmanuel.venisse@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I don't think we'll can work a lot about GWT in 1.2 with all
> issues
> > > > > targeted
> > > > > to this version, but we can include some GWT components. I think
> to
> > > the
> > > > > file
> > > > > browser in the working copy page and a user friendly page to write
> a
> > > > > schedule with for example a text part where it will be write in
> > human
> > > > text
> > > > > the definition of the cron expression like "This schedule will run
> > > every
> > > > > hour".
> > > > >
> > > > > About my GWT test, I created something few months ago. It is some
> > > things
> > > > > about how to show all informations about groups/projects/builds at
> > one
> > > > > place
> > > > > without to click on few pages to see informations. If user want
> more
> > > > > information, it click on the link in the menu (blank page for now
> :)
> > > ).
> > > > > You
> > > > > can see my work there:
> > > > > http://people.apache.org/~evenisse/continuum_gwt/Continuum.html<http://people.apache.org/%7Eevenisse/continuum_gwt/Continuum.html>
> <http://people.apache.org/%7Eevenisse/continuum_gwt/Continuum.html>
> > <http://people.apache.org/%7Eevenisse/continuum_gwt/Continuum.html>
> > > <http://people.apache.org/%7Eevenisse/continuum_gwt/Continuum.html>
> > > > <http://people.apache.org/%7Eevenisse/continuum_gwt/Continuum.html>
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't think it should be the result we want, but it can be
> > something
> > > > to
> > > > > start discussion.
> > > > >
> > > > > Emmanuel
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 3:27 AM, Rahul Thakur <
> > > > rahul.thakur.xdev@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I know it sounds crazy, but I'd still like to work through the
> UI
> > > and
> > > > > > rework it using GWT for 1.2/1.3 ;-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Emmanuel - do you want to talk about the work you did with the
> GWT
> > > UI?
> > > > I
> > > > > > did some work as well but its in my local SVN.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does any one has any other thoughts on this?
> Changes/improvements
> > in
> > > > UI
> > > > > > design from a usability perspective?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > Rahul
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brett Porter wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sure, if someone is working on it :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 02/04/2008, at 8:40 PM, Rahul Thakur wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Should we target this for 1.2/1.3 instead?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Rahul
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Brett Porter (JIRA) wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > [
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/CONTINUUM-1669?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
> > > > > > > > > ]
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Brett Porter updated CONTINUUM-1669:
> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Fix Version/s: 2.0
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >  User Interface improvements
> > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Key: CONTINUUM-1669
> > > > > > > > > > URL: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/CONTINUUM-1669
> > > > > > > > > > Project: Continuum
> > > > > > > > > > Issue Type: Improvement
> > > > > > > > > > Reporter: Rahul Thakur
> > > > > > > > > > Fix For: 2.0
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Refer to detailed discussion here:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CONTINUUMDEV/UI+improvements
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Brett Porter
> > > > > > > brett@apache.org
> > > > > > > http://blogs.exist.com/bporter/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > jesse mcconnell
> > > > jesse.mcconnell@gmail.com
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > jesse mcconnell
> > jesse.mcconnell@gmail.com
> >
>


-- 
jesse mcconnell
jesse.mcconnell@gmail.com

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