Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-concerted-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-concerted-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 92090185B1 for ; Sat, 9 Jan 2016 03:35:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 37977 invoked by uid 500); 9 Jan 2016 03:35:35 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-concerted-dev-archive@concerted.apache.org Received: (qmail 36862 invoked by uid 500); 9 Jan 2016 03:35:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@concerted.incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@concerted.incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@concerted.incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 36511 invoked by uid 99); 9 Jan 2016 03:35:34 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO spamd3-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 09 Jan 2016 03:35:34 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd3-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd3-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id F0E1D18028B for ; Sat, 9 Jan 2016 03:35:33 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd3-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.02 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.02 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd3-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com header.b=HRqB8nNe; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=shaposhnik-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.b=OaAABcaX Received: from mx1-us-east.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd3-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K2l7z7VmRM0T for ; Sat, 9 Jan 2016 03:35:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-f178.google.com (mail-ig0-f178.google.com [209.85.213.178]) by mx1-us-east.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-us-east.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 0B2B343A84 for ; Sat, 9 Jan 2016 03:35:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ig0-f178.google.com with SMTP id h5so45819724igh.0 for ; Fri, 08 Jan 2016 19:35:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=KKoiu9r8h0FPflRXc0i2VsaLvOLzxFHvkPmhBzGPgz0=; b=HRqB8nNeTcNIlvUSAkcNQuGepxk/hCuapoLppVJNZ/BN5cao4aMGotBKt4AYZBf2JH NxeIIktZMNd+3Rd79rcU2rtlI3p6SQ8zWc4n3m4HmdlC0ee7kyw7R8f9ACWD0rkFJyNF bts/rR0ppaGCHu0FsigE+6ATdmQG2ga+d4vepMlMYSzKrM9Ese/3flYRW48JtXrplPnD anvRsHQTxlIStkljOj8Xy9c3WwK/gUyb2e26ZPRzri3tJOdubPEe9AHP1/kkxkTDAiH5 UIUuWRc6H1udl54mF4+qILJu696fmGD4kHcbDhKARmrtFex8ONZ/sVAMzB6V5YwyOdO7 Yx7Q== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=shaposhnik-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=KKoiu9r8h0FPflRXc0i2VsaLvOLzxFHvkPmhBzGPgz0=; b=OaAABcaX8EFseyai2Cz/tQPY641yla5SIAGhmTykvGmM1a9wfq5JV6x10gzh7eLm6w tteRbE4TYl4eBKoVTvJ6Bz3UfnWNqzCCqMHWMAMXk+kBnmALo27PUkVZgtvrXT1RcQA8 llqftelEpiCgZDW+xSSyXuBNSLwzksOvqxmufqOdLCCmLuE1QMWhM5g6p3vWr/G5ET8+ elsHCwNVMJjg2jWslgCGcu0rNNuajI7MKaLVaNszrhpq0XuSxThu3Qaw2K6sxK4nruNM TnuMN/atqrOPltkgts4jSCzBkDy6RBauxaJtcVnYAeYY46sNrpTOFO97AcSAF2f+mWg3 Zzxg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.98.8 with SMTP id ee8mr2204201igb.91.1452310532541; Fri, 08 Jan 2016 19:35:32 -0800 (PST) Sender: shaposhnik@gmail.com Received: by 10.50.46.34 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Jan 2016 19:35:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 19:35:32 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: UR5h7OrNh96a3CWPBQdkxGmYwoY Message-ID: Subject: Re: Concerted may be in need of help From: Roman Shaposhnik To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Cc: "dev@concerted.incubator.apache.org" , Atri Sharma Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 2:23 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > Atri, > > It looks like community building is going slowly with Concerted. This is > understandable as a part-time activity. > > Would it be simpler and better for the project to build a community outside > Apache and bring the project back for incubation once you have done so? But what's wrong with this community building exercise within the Apache? I honestly don't get what this is going to accomplish if we push Concerted out AND then get them back. I also don't get why we're so concerned about this particular community where we had examples of very, very slow to take off communities in the Incubator. Thanks, Roman.