From dev-return-11782-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@community.apache.org Tue Apr 2 17:27:43 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id EDE6D180668 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2019 19:27:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 71145 invoked by uid 500); 2 Apr 2019 17:27:41 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@community.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@community.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@community.apache.org Received: (qmail 71133 invoked by uid 99); 2 Apr 2019 17:27:41 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd1-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 02 Apr 2019 17:27:41 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id BE593C769B for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2019 17:27:40 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd1-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -13.701 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-13.701 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, ENV_AND_HDR_SPF_MATCH=-0.5, HTML_MESSAGE=2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5, USER_IN_DEF_SPF_WL=-7.5] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd1-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=google.com Received: from mx1-lw-eu.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd1-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.7]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id T3F5T_piHAej for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2019 17:27:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-io1-f50.google.com (mail-io1-f50.google.com [209.85.166.50]) by mx1-lw-eu.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-eu.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 2B22762517 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2019 17:27:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-io1-f50.google.com with SMTP id b6so11639306iog.0 for ; Tue, 02 Apr 2019 10:27:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=aYkD/pWeEMbiGev8AG+poJdrqqHf3sXk2tWe5mHscMI=; b=YdGv7rBZw58T/CTk1dyluTlf5X0YzdJGDIo6vuCO9JEGLtsmPqrBfnPkgvU1nRODPz p65z/Vgw/EVb6+QffskbjVWDZjQL9b6TiW/GsJWQoyyhsPat3+K+SXitcNfEitVAAgkO vPZCRBWDlQKAWyLOa7Z91wabiU2MNMg+JujPv9ICW7jMk4iBQNU3S8Rlh3y1a1rwLH04 0D20jEl6G/G10x/cbL6Nk1fqJON6QwhDM2hN4V0pkGHo+C2N9VOvZjGD0wEiL1jxjyF7 Fkj4jur2ohnrebXzyZaijwRsyOWRa3VdChcAKuM8UsMvLgAcvuHAWvkMIq1BZ/XTxVug iAeg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVaNkF7Q/ogwG8KWq1pMx2soi/AzQBQ5KliK5HyEAtdTwkEKZ6n zofnzyzpLL9ajm3P5LS6oVeBal8+8tEoS3ErXxZvfnjOkEw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwTWC8ebJou7vfCwCUjCS7UUpcoU7IrpEZiETeKYUuB4iYZWH+Nl562mpNtSzOKYKC0rjk4dxJxpjUKpd3NK18= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:91d2:: with SMTP id k18mr51896342ior.24.1554226049151; Tue, 02 Apr 2019 10:27:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1437544467.171.1553521131793.JavaMail.joant@minerva> <94736963.172.1553521132946.JavaMail.joant@minerva> <45e4eb82-2b87-24cf-7550-c82e9473ced1@rcbowen.com> <3AF03D9E-454F-4C93-9BAA-042200E71F3C@jaguNET.com> <54A0F165-A8F1-49DD-AF56-2AC44C4BF205@jaguNET.com> <0559B1F0-08D3-4EAE-A238-A5D091B6614A@jaguNET.com> <7F1FB76E-E2AF-4CE1-A1A0-64BD98B497C5@jaguNET.com> <887DFA13-6D0F-4100-83FF-DE541DC74228@classsoftware.com> <75caa443-f45d-09c9-376f-0457c492150d@apache.org> In-Reply-To: <75caa443-f45d-09c9-376f-0457c492150d@apache.org> From: Griselda Cuevas Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2019 10:27:17 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: on "meritocracy" To: dev@community.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000008fd85705858f7351" --0000000000008fd85705858f7351 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't know why I missed Mark's email, it appeared in a different thread in my Gmail. I will take your suggestions Mark and embed them into a proposal in the new Jira board. Thank you!!! This is inspiring, motivating and amazing. On Sun, Mar 31, 2019, 12:59 PM Mark Thomas wrote: > I asked the D&I folks at $dayjob for some advice / suggestions and got > back the following: > > 1. Mozilla have been doing some work in this area. It was suggested we > reach out to them to get the benefit of their experience. Anyone have > any contacts there? > > 2. Mozilla joined https://womensleadership.stanford.edu/corporate as > part of their program. > > 3. Consider sending folks to relevant conferences e.g. > http://www.womentransformingtechnology.com/ > > 4. Creating a vision for inclusion > > 5. Various workshops (psychological safety, inclusion) and other > educational sessions > > 6. Hearing from leadership on these topics. > > 7. Making the content core not extra-curricular. > > > Trying to translate what some of this might look like at the ASF: > > I think a lot of this is already covered by what Griselda set out here: > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a5e7e30fad3e89547db554cf64b10d33611d= 4401356590bddf94b918@%3Cdev.community.apache.org%3E > > I think I'm getting a little ahead of things but I wanted to add some > ideas of my own in terms of what some of the above could look like while > the ideas were fresh in my mind. > > 4. One for the board. > > 6/7. D&I could/should be part of our quarterly and annual reports. It > should appear on the board agenda and in the minutes. It should be in > State of the Feather talks at ApacheCon. This sounds like we need a VP > D&I to me. I think Sam's thinking was heading in this direction when he > mentioned setting up a President's committee. > > 5. Harder to do in an organisation as virtual as ours. We could/should > certainly try and do more of this at ApacheCon. I'm fairly sure that > there are geographical concentrations of committers. We should look at > putting on specific events for committers where we have concentrations > of committers. > > 3. I'm thinking TAC+. We fund folks to attend these external events. > > Mark > > > > On 29/03/2019 22:40, Justin Mclean wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Slightly off topic but relevant. One think we could do is look at other > foundations and communities and see what they have done that has worked f= or > them. I come across this interesting artifice this morning [1]. Note it > includes the steps that community took to build a diverse community, I=E2= =80=99d > also note we=E2=80=99ve taken some of those steps (e.g. have a code of co= nduct) but > perhaps shows where we could do more. They have set up a Drupal Diversity= & > Inclusion team [5] that spells out it values [2] and has among other > things guide on moderation, [3] and participation [4], Now the ASF is > different to Drupal and some of those tings may not fit but it would be > useful I think to at least consider them. > > > > Thanks, > > Justin > > > > 1. > https://angel.co/blog/drupals-angela-byron-on-building-a-diverse-communit= y > > 2. > https://www.drupal.org/docs/8/modules/drupal-diversity-inclusion/statemen= t-of-values > > 3. > https://www.drupal.org/docs/8/modules/drupal-diversity-inclusion/drupal-d= iversity-inclusion-participation-moderation-1 > > 4. > https://www.drupal.org/docs/8/modules/drupal-diversity-inclusion/particip= ation-moderation-guidelines/participant-guidelines > > 5. https://www.drupal.org/project/diversity > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@community.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@community.apache.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@community.apache.org > > --0000000000008fd85705858f7351--