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From Griselda Cuevas <g...@google.com.INVALID>
Subject Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019
Date Wed, 03 Apr 2019 20:37:51 GMT
Hi Sharan & Joan,

I think we could have the tech writer help with overall content of the ASF,
specially as we talk about how to best represent "meritocracy". *I can help
scope the project.* My initial thoughts are that the concrete internship
could be an ASF-wide content refresh with the focus of better represent
meritocracy, diversity and inclusion.

If I'm not mistaken, this could fall under what Joan, Bertrand and Rich
were already doing, so perhaps they could help as mentors? (not findings
volunteers, just brainstorming)

G




On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 13:15, Sharan Foga <sharan@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Joan
>
> We would need to specify the exact piece of work that the tech writer will
> work on. So it's not a generic application. The tech writer will look at
> the prospective work and choose what they think they would like to do. So I
> think at this stage it makes sense to let the projects apply as they have
> specific work that they want done..
>
> The ASF application would only be an umbrella for the specific project
> work and I think trying to implement a hybrid solution would only cause
> confusion.
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>
> On 2019/04/03 20:02:34, Joan Touzet <wohali@apache.org> wrote:
> > Sharan, might want to keep the ASF application if we want their help
> > with tech doc writing for things like the incubator, infra, etc. and
> > other internally-facing ASF stuff. Not sure it makes sense for those
> > groups to be individually reaching out on those topics.
> >
> > -Joan
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Sharan Foga" <sharan@apache.org>
> > > To: dev@community.apache.org
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2019 3:52:13 PM
> > > Subject: Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019
> > >
> > > Agreed.
> > >
> > > I'll ask them to delete the ASF application for Season of Docs and
> > > each Apache project can apply for themselves. I'll check the email
> > > thread for those projects interested and send a message to their dev
> > > list.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Sharan
> > >
> > > On 2019/04/03 15:29:59, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > In such case I see no need in ASF wide org admins ....
> > > > "it's every man for himself." (c)
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 22:24, Dinesh Joshi
> > > > <dinesh.joshi@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I heard back. Here’s the exact response -
> > > > >
> > > > > “I believe the ASF has already applied. However, we are not setup
> > > > > to handle multiple applications through an umbrella
> > > > > organization, so yes, you may want to have Apache Cassandra
> > > > > apply separately.”
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Dinesh
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Apr 2, 2019, at 10:39 PM, Sharan Foga <sharan@apache.org>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That's great Dinesh.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > Sharan
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> On 2019/04/03 05:35:25, Dinesh Joshi
> > > > > >> <dinesh.joshi@yahoo.com.INVALID> wrote:
> > > > > >> I have reached out to them seeking clarification. Will let
you
> > > > > >> all know when I hear back.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Dinesh
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> On Apr 2, 2019, at 10:33 PM, Sharan Foga <sharan@apache.org>
> > > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Hi Aizhamal
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> The rules are that a maximum of 2 technical writers
will be
> > > > > >>> allocated per organisation - and we are asking for the
> > > > > >>> maximum. This is a Google constraint not ours. And even
> > > > > >>> though we have asked for 2, if accepted there is also
the
> > > > > >>> possibility that we get allocated only 1.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> My thought is that unlike GSoC where there are lots
of
> > > > > >>> students wanting to apply and participate, there is
only a
> > > > > >>> limited number of technical writers available so to
ensure
> > > > > >>> accepted organisations get at least one writer - it
is being
> > > > > >>> limited.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Thanks
> > > > > >>> Sharan
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>> On 2019/04/02 21:57:20, Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
> > > > > >>>> <aizhamal@google.com.INVALID> wrote:
> > > > > >>>> Hi Sharan,
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> We plan to prepare ideas list for at least 2 Apache
> > > > > >>>> projects, in particular
> > > > > >>>> for Airflow, Beam and possibly Spark. I am sure
there are
> > > > > >>>> other projects
> > > > > >>>> that would like to participate, therefore I’m
wondering
> > > > > >>>> whether 2 tech
> > > > > >>>> writers will be enough? Can we ask for more?
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> I’m happy to chat further to figure out what’s
the best
> > > > > >>>> course of action.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Thanks,
> > > > > >>>> Aizhamal
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 14:03 Sharan Foga
> > > > > >>>>> <sharan@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Hi All
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> As mentioned the applications for the Google
Season of Docs
> > > > > >>>>> opened today
> > > > > >>>>> and I'm working my way through it on behalf
of the ASF.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> If accepted, we will be allocated either one
or two
> > > > > >>>>> techical writers.
> > > > > >>>>> Google will also pay the ASF a stipend of $500
per
> > > > > >>>>> technical writer
> > > > > >>>>> mentored (which I hope can go directly to fundraising
:-)
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Each project that wants to participate must
provide two
> > > > > >>>>> mentors for each
> > > > > >>>>> documentation project.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> As part of the application process there are
a few things
> > > > > >>>>> that we need to
> > > > > >>>>> setup.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> 1. Season of Docs Page and List of Project Ideas
> > > > > >>>>> We need to create a public webpage about Season
of Docs
> > > > > >>>>> that contains the
> > > > > >>>>> list of project ideas for documentation. I have
created a
> > > > > >>>>> page on the
> > > > > >>>>> ComDev wiki https://s.apache.org/w4CH  with
a table for
> > > > > >>>>> projects to
> > > > > >>>>> record their ideas.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> 2. Alternative administrator.
> > > > > >>>>> I’ve set myself up as the primary admin and
Maxim as the
> > > > > >>>>> alternative admin
> > > > > >>>>> (Maxim, I need to confirm your contact email
and you will
> > > > > >>>>> also need to
> > > > > >>>>> register as the alternative admin and I will
email you the
> > > > > >>>>> link offline)
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> 3. Mentors
> > > > > >>>>> All mentors from the projects interested in
participating
> > > > > >>>>> must register
> > > > > >>>>> individually at the following link :
> > > > > >>>>> https://forms.gle/a1x26WQGzURLerv66.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> 4. Application Form: Documentation / Technnial
Writer
> > > > > >>>>> Collaboration
> > > > > >>>>> There is a section to fill in about experience
with
> > > > > >>>>> documentation and any
> > > > > >>>>> previous collaboration with technical writers.
I know a few
> > > > > >>>>> projects have
> > > > > >>>>> used various tools for documentation - but not
sure about
> > > > > >>>>> any technical
> > > > > >>>>> writing collaboration (so if you know of any
then please
> > > > > >>>>> let me know)
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> 5. Application Form: GSoC
> > > > > >>>>> There is a section to complete at our participation
in
> > > > > >>>>> GSoC.I think I have
> > > > > >>>>> the details from our application this year so
can follow up
> > > > > >>>>> with Maxim or
> > > > > >>>>> Uli about it
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> This is all I have at the moment and we have
until the 23rd
> > > > > >>>>> April 2019 to
> > > > > >>>>> finalise all the application details. Ideally
I want to
> > > > > >>>>> have it done well
> > > > > >>>>> before then :-)
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Please pass on this information within your
various
> > > > > >>>>> projects and as with
> > > > > >>>>> GSoC - I'll see how we can get this information
out to all
> > > > > >>>>> our project
> > > > > >>>>> mailing lists.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Thanks
> > > > > >>>>> Sharan
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
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> > > > > >>>>> --
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> *Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy*
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Open Source Program Manager
> > > > > >>>>
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> > > > > >>>>
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> > > > > >>>>
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