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From Griselda Cuevas <g...@google.com.INVALID>
Subject Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019
Date Wed, 03 Apr 2019 21:05:53 GMT
Ah, ok - thanks!

On Wed, Apr 3, 2019, 1:43 PM Sharan Foga <sharan@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Gris
>
> I've already sent the email to withdraw the ASF application that I
> created. If you think there is specific work that could be useful then
> there is no reason that another application could be made before the
> deadline.
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>
>
> On 2019/04/03 20:37:51, Griselda Cuevas <gris@google.com.INVALID> wrote:
> > Hi Sharan & Joan,
> >
> > I think we could have the tech writer help with overall content of the
> ASF,
> > specially as we talk about how to best represent "meritocracy". *I can
> help
> > scope the project.* My initial thoughts are that the concrete internship
> > could be an ASF-wide content refresh with the focus of better represent
> > meritocracy, diversity and inclusion.
> >
> > If I'm not mistaken, this could fall under what Joan, Bertrand and Rich
> > were already doing, so perhaps they could help as mentors? (not findings
> > volunteers, just brainstorming)
> >
> > G
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 13:15, Sharan Foga <sharan@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Joan
> > >
> > > We would need to specify the exact piece of work that the tech writer
> will
> > > work on. So it's not a generic application. The tech writer will look
> at
> > > the prospective work and choose what they think they would like to do.
> So I
> > > think at this stage it makes sense to let the projects apply as they
> have
> > > specific work that they want done..
> > >
> > > The ASF application would only be an umbrella for the specific project
> > > work and I think trying to implement a hybrid solution would only cause
> > > confusion.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Sharan
> > >
> > > On 2019/04/03 20:02:34, Joan Touzet <wohali@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > Sharan, might want to keep the ASF application if we want their help
> > > > with tech doc writing for things like the incubator, infra, etc. and
> > > > other internally-facing ASF stuff. Not sure it makes sense for those
> > > > groups to be individually reaching out on those topics.
> > > >
> > > > -Joan
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Sharan Foga" <sharan@apache.org>
> > > > > To: dev@community.apache.org
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2019 3:52:13 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019
> > > > >
> > > > > Agreed.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'll ask them to delete the ASF application for Season of Docs and
> > > > > each Apache project can apply for themselves. I'll check the email
> > > > > thread for those projects interested and send a message to their
> dev
> > > > > list.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Sharan
> > > > >
> > > > > On 2019/04/03 15:29:59, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > In such case I see no need in ASF wide org admins ....
> > > > > > "it's every man for himself." (c)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 22:24, Dinesh Joshi
> > > > > > <dinesh.joshi@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I heard back. Here’s the exact response -
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > “I believe the ASF has already applied. However, we are
not
> setup
> > > > > > > to handle multiple applications through an umbrella
> > > > > > > organization, so yes, you may want to have Apache Cassandra
> > > > > > > apply separately.”
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dinesh
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Apr 2, 2019, at 10:39 PM, Sharan Foga <sharan@apache.org>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > That's great Dinesh.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > Sharan
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> On 2019/04/03 05:35:25, Dinesh Joshi
> > > > > > > >> <dinesh.joshi@yahoo.com.INVALID> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> I have reached out to them seeking clarification.
Will let
> you
> > > > > > > >> all know when I hear back.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Dinesh
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>> On Apr 2, 2019, at 10:33 PM, Sharan Foga <
> sharan@apache.org>
> > > > > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> Hi Aizhamal
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> The rules are that a maximum of 2 technical
writers will be
> > > > > > > >>> allocated per organisation - and we are asking
for the
> > > > > > > >>> maximum. This is a Google constraint not ours.
And even
> > > > > > > >>> though we have asked for 2, if accepted there
is also the
> > > > > > > >>> possibility that we get allocated only 1.
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> My thought is that unlike GSoC where there
are lots of
> > > > > > > >>> students wanting to apply and participate,
there is only a
> > > > > > > >>> limited number of technical writers available
so to ensure
> > > > > > > >>> accepted organisations get at least one writer
- it is
> being
> > > > > > > >>> limited.
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> Thanks
> > > > > > > >>> Sharan
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>> On 2019/04/02 21:57:20, Aizhamal Nurmamat
kyzy
> > > > > > > >>>> <aizhamal@google.com.INVALID> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>> Hi Sharan,
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> We plan to prepare ideas list for at least
2 Apache
> > > > > > > >>>> projects, in particular
> > > > > > > >>>> for Airflow, Beam and possibly Spark.
I am sure there are
> > > > > > > >>>> other projects
> > > > > > > >>>> that would like to participate, therefore
I’m wondering
> > > > > > > >>>> whether 2 tech
> > > > > > > >>>> writers will be enough? Can we ask for
more?
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> I’m happy to chat further to figure
out what’s the best
> > > > > > > >>>> course of action.
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> Thanks,
> > > > > > > >>>> Aizhamal
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 14:03 Sharan
Foga
> > > > > > > >>>>> <sharan@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> Hi All
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> As mentioned the applications for
the Google Season of
> Docs
> > > > > > > >>>>> opened today
> > > > > > > >>>>> and I'm working my way through it
on behalf of the ASF.
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> If accepted, we will be allocated
either one or two
> > > > > > > >>>>> techical writers.
> > > > > > > >>>>> Google will also pay the ASF a stipend
of $500 per
> > > > > > > >>>>> technical writer
> > > > > > > >>>>> mentored (which I hope can go directly
to fundraising :-)
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> Each project that wants to participate
must provide two
> > > > > > > >>>>> mentors for each
> > > > > > > >>>>> documentation project.
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> As part of the application process
there are a few things
> > > > > > > >>>>> that we need to
> > > > > > > >>>>> setup.
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> 1. Season of Docs Page and List of
Project Ideas
> > > > > > > >>>>> We need to create a public webpage
about Season of Docs
> > > > > > > >>>>> that contains the
> > > > > > > >>>>> list of project ideas for documentation.
I have created a
> > > > > > > >>>>> page on the
> > > > > > > >>>>> ComDev wiki https://s.apache.org/w4CH
 with a table for
> > > > > > > >>>>> projects to
> > > > > > > >>>>> record their ideas.
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> 2. Alternative administrator.
> > > > > > > >>>>> I’ve set myself up as the primary
admin and Maxim as the
> > > > > > > >>>>> alternative admin
> > > > > > > >>>>> (Maxim, I need to confirm your contact
email and you will
> > > > > > > >>>>> also need to
> > > > > > > >>>>> register as the alternative admin
and I will email you
> the
> > > > > > > >>>>> link offline)
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> 3. Mentors
> > > > > > > >>>>> All mentors from the projects interested
in participating
> > > > > > > >>>>> must register
> > > > > > > >>>>> individually at the following link
:
> > > > > > > >>>>> https://forms.gle/a1x26WQGzURLerv66.
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> 4. Application Form: Documentation
/ Technnial Writer
> > > > > > > >>>>> Collaboration
> > > > > > > >>>>> There is a section to fill in about
experience with
> > > > > > > >>>>> documentation and any
> > > > > > > >>>>> previous collaboration with technical
writers. I know a
> few
> > > > > > > >>>>> projects have
> > > > > > > >>>>> used various tools for documentation
- but not sure about
> > > > > > > >>>>> any technical
> > > > > > > >>>>> writing collaboration (so if you know
of any then please
> > > > > > > >>>>> let me know)
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> 5. Application Form: GSoC
> > > > > > > >>>>> There is a section to complete at
our participation in
> > > > > > > >>>>> GSoC.I think I have
> > > > > > > >>>>> the details from our application this
year so can follow
> up
> > > > > > > >>>>> with Maxim or
> > > > > > > >>>>> Uli about it
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> This is all I have at the moment and
we have until the
> 23rd
> > > > > > > >>>>> April 2019 to
> > > > > > > >>>>> finalise all the application details.
Ideally I want to
> > > > > > > >>>>> have it done well
> > > > > > > >>>>> before then :-)
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> Please pass on this information within
your various
> > > > > > > >>>>> projects and as with
> > > > > > > >>>>> GSoC - I'll see how we can get this
information out to
> all
> > > > > > > >>>>> our project
> > > > > > > >>>>> mailing lists.
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > > >>>>> Sharan
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>
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