From dev-return-10918-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@community.apache.org Mon Nov 5 18:44:04 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 68CAA180670 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2018 18:44:04 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 79181 invoked by uid 500); 5 Nov 2018 17:44:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@community.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@community.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@community.apache.org Received: (qmail 79168 invoked by uid 99); 5 Nov 2018 17:44:02 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd2-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 05 Nov 2018 17:44:02 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd2-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd2-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 3E2FE1A5471 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2018 17:44:02 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd2-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.811 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.811 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.01] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd2-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=comcast.net Received: from mx1-lw-eu.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd2-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.9]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MVUn5C09VAQt for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2018 17:44:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from resqmta-po-06v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-06v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.165]) by mx1-lw-eu.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-eu.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 65A685F180 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2018 17:43:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from resomta-po-09v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.233]) by resqmta-po-06v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTP id JgjvgGDfNeaUBJiumgUJRV; Mon, 05 Nov 2018 17:43:52 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20161114; t=1541439832; bh=s/msmFkig0x5PldXLJFmD7bZ3L010VCZysUdVOW1FiI=; h=Received:Received:From:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:To: Message-Id; b=dsytpYruLuNalYZkEPXN+CRJfmKyeMaNThuVzmEUINth8o2IrO+laErSqHP5IyOYh OKxaCFUW6lFZlqvlLSCXngyD2K4u0cPN+Ac/DKhOBzHAZ5xh9S1TyVYlP265O34Cpb am4NAU5h7ZzUqygkwfpe3hXl2TeFkd7HPBm54iIQEIOKhGXWZ42u5hqQ85jKXHfVDn sCZ1/HBqPQF1UKVcNTjc8q06k9cdi+/6FDeoAUXyiohr8dwqgXqRcqDFVe3sVdBavp 33nSOYdWH4LLrm7YqlKN/+tt+0Bgziz/CYDYdp7UrxvXY5UUvg8YzBm7idrgU4CWxv hPQ3dvpebNUXQ== Received: from [IPv6:2601:649:101:8656:8827:32d5:ea29:5508] ([IPv6:2601:649:101:8656:8827:32d5:ea29:5508]) by resomta-po-09v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTPA id Jiulga74YOYvAJiulgpWAa; Mon, 05 Nov 2018 17:43:52 +0000 From: Dave Fisher Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Subject: Re: Discussions in pull requests vs. dev list (was: The Apache Way and good developers...) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 09:43:50 -0800 References: <74F83319-C0A7-4066-8B15-95C93AD52DA0@c-ware.de> <486A81C7-9AB1-4486-A748-A136001BCB71@gmail.com> <790522822.1854.1541180777181.JavaMail.Joan@BRAIN> To: dev@community.apache.org In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <0F73E449-3832-4DC2-962F-74040CF2DEBB@comcast.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfItCBODf5uFi6E2o4kNOmrQO0yTT1QkXvEmt5YsGc2nZV52cGr2vePubOsEoOwMPNf+jwWqZrOCenIeIibFCrH+u8XudDhth3/2qvpgP8/QiP0bD/9Gt Q+dRT9lwz62McFGYIcJ2QmRYrhCQaX/Gk5aWDS5SaMEoQFJtv822ut8tsmPlDZB283EWvPcSIlcsLSs0tooHj0r0cY7MO9lYt422ffs868zDZkAeO/UY9crU PkCXGw4uZ5yllmGwiGojsUSwi1bQ963QSd3S1qQxYyzZuWK0ZrQRMrKSwEVqEC3r > On Nov 5, 2018, at 8:35 AM, Christopher wrote: >=20 > On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 3:49 AM Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: >>=20 >> Hi, >>=20 >> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 7:02 PM Christopher = wrote: >>> ...it would be a mistake if ASF were to try to impose a more spammy >>> workflow to dev@ onto every PMC, as a requirement... >>=20 >> FWIW I didn't suggest imposing anything like that - my only concern = is >> that it should be possible to follow the action of any of our = projects >> just by subscribing to their dev list. >>=20 >=20 > That problem is not specific to GitHub. Are you equally concerned > about JIRA activity going to notifications@ and SVN activity going to > commits@ (especially with commit-then-review) ? >=20 >> Watching GitHub repositories is fine but some of our projects have >> many repositories and just finding out which ones to watch depending >> on what one's interested in can be problematic, IMO. >>=20 >> -Bertrand >>=20 >=20 > A weekly summary of active issues/PRs for all of that project's repos, > posted to the dev@ list might be useful, but it could also be too > large to be useful. >=20 > It might also be useful to contributors to have an automated monthly > email from INFRA to remind the project of all INFRA resources used by > the project, such as mailing lists, git repos, git mirrors, reserved > svn paths, issue trackers, Maven staging profiles, etc. That way, > newcomers can be made aware of all resources in use by the project (in > case they missed that info on the project website), so they can have > an opportunity to subscribe to them as they choose, or ask questions > about them on the dev@ list. The Whimsy Roster for a PMC has most of this information. It might be = nice to have a public version of the project information. Links Mailing Lists Committers PMC Prior Reports Regards, Dave >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@community.apache.org >=20 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@community.apache.org