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From Joan Touzet <>
Subject Re: Dev vs User Mailing Lists
Date Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:26:15 GMT
Thanks for the info, Bertrand.

Mailing lists can be just as exclusive as semi-synchronous environments. They may not work
for your community, but they work for ours, and removing them will necessarily disadvantage
many contributors.

I'm firmly of the opinion that you can't completely ignore real-time communications and expect
100% of everything to occur asynchronously on mailing lists. It explicitly disallows certain
types of communication that you can't have in a mailing list. You have the imposition of the
formality of a mailing list for newcomers, you have the "being on record" syndrome, you have
the "must be subscribed to post" problem (not always), and finally you are ignoring the fact
that people will talk real time anyway - so why not make that a venue that you at least have
some control/visibility over? In fact, my doctoral research was on how semi-synchronous communications
support distance work and learning better than fully asynchronous ones....


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bertrand Delacretaz" <>
To: "dev" <>
Cc:, "Myrle Krantz" <>,,,
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 12:04:27 PM
Subject: Re: Dev vs User Mailing Lists

On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 7:46 PM <> wrote:
> ...[ASIDE] Realtime communications are not inclusive...

FWIW there was a good discussion about this recently in Apache Arrow:


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