From dev-return-9769-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@community.apache.org Fri Mar 23 21:51:31 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 7D26218064D for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2018 21:51:30 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 39427 invoked by uid 500); 23 Mar 2018 20:51:24 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@community.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@community.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@community.apache.org Received: (qmail 39415 invoked by uid 99); 23 Mar 2018 20:51:23 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd3-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 23 Mar 2018 20:51:23 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd3-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd3-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 435D7182DB5 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2018 20:51:23 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd3-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.879 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.879 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd3-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mx1-lw-eu.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd3-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FurPV2XmtIlb for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2018 20:51:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oi0-f65.google.com (mail-oi0-f65.google.com [209.85.218.65]) by mx1-lw-eu.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-eu.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 5611B5F173 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2018 20:51:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oi0-f65.google.com with SMTP id 126-v6so5462915oig.0 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2018 13:51:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=wE9WUS3V6wJBZJZdkU7idmbAwxFiNdGD23arMSLIvvE=; b=mTgiRnL6KfgR0aPlDF7kz/qoAdNUwOoyjGTlLz3zhq+wYQLBKbislAAdxt6SvfH5Mp l+KU9OZ04zN6KrPnHfHl93xB6zTNXjawll2CgCffVB49Bn/SzXvbi9gFyPd/YCR0BazD 8RFk4pm8Mim2KcYK1a9zVX4T6DARbrixRAEZS9sg7HMu30HF6zcCzXBtIWx1ULrS/8wJ Eh4Hm94grj8TkKzzOBYCUG5DdYVIAS1ph16qeFBwH+BlXLawOT840HCM5zE+glv2RLLW FEOVXe/d2PMVaWnsVctAQQr4CKV+Uhz7SYkupZpIj0N0238BRqQkO7jglPcfUH7hadb3 VqLQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=wE9WUS3V6wJBZJZdkU7idmbAwxFiNdGD23arMSLIvvE=; b=Dy4sLsB3FAxK5HFzdAcbq1FXc5yb0xn9S0cWh6tW013dsLS/NJwE278tNVtPLRBSPQ VFETLa+CjCxgwRJ9ivZbQZ/wVcIZeQGbX//1xvnUN5lG1QW4OAmKe5CDsHPT++sLEwdz ihm5QXqi+fQEizDMyTtCHJ3BMTl2aMamqM3gwIwHmBDUfd88Yyu6TgZkzj2cTea3NLBu Cz5X8oVHLWJ84DQsc66evpX/63+SRQXwJm5/6bRG4E7ut8NqrW0PWd7HF9DjFXU53/oR uXnmvzSHAlzj2mGwcg05UTqUU7hd1fusObHc0JfwHivOrbddc1otVtnTcc/F0i+QruDf ROeQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AElRT7G+Du5hOPdHY8pd3uEiqSEGJCdVThqdkEcWIZhXPu93H4ebk0tL bKflTGR7Al1oiME+26X0MuzNujAgl+fkN4dNIh5r3g== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AG47ELvq9iHSXk3X7H5dtJ/7GahGSMvP+vdyC1uDzwSpghXOLupDm9c2PJ2RX/y6fcxR0rE0dVO2u4CdFqdxKF3omr8= X-Received: by 10.202.17.6 with SMTP id 6mr11162248oir.58.1521838278748; Fri, 23 Mar 2018 13:51:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.74.84.67 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Mar 2018 13:51:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <82215d35-94a9-e8bb-ed03-c9bf7e43c02a@apache.org> References: <63927cef-917c-b635-3326-58df3a93727e@rcbowen.com> <82215d35-94a9-e8bb-ed03-c9bf7e43c02a@apache.org> From: Roy Lenferink Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2018 20:51:18 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Help with task: Ensure all Apache TLPs have Wikipedia pages To: dev@community.apache.org, Mark Thomas Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="f4f5e808eaa802b0e805681a968d" --f4f5e808eaa802b0e805681a968d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Mark, Thank you for your response and sorting this out. At first the page was nominated for deletion again, even with your answer and pointing to the License. After some time she changed her mind because she took an actual look on the website. For everyone else working on this task, Wikipedia works in the way when you are using a sentence from the project its websites, you have to specifically mention the website is licensed under the Apache License as well. For an example, see "External links" on [1] : "*Prose in this article was copied from this source, which is released under an Apache License, Version 2.0.*" Thanks Mark! Roy [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Celix 2018-03-22 9:33 GMT+00:00 Mark Thomas : > Roy, > > I spoken with the editor concerned [1] and it should be possible for you > to recreate the Apache Celix page and any other pages that that editor > removed. > > For future reference in case it helps you or others: > > The content of all of our web sites is licensed under the Apache > License, version 2 unless explicitly stated otherwise. I can't think of > any examples of alternative licencing off the top of my head but there > might be a few instances somewhere. > > The ALv2 permits re-use (see sections 2 and 4 in particular). > > While section 6 of the ALv2 may appear to prevent the use of logos, it > does not prevent nominative use [2] and our policy explicitly calls out > using the logo in an article to refer to the project as being OK [3]. > > HTH, > > Mark > > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RHaworth > [2] http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/#principles > [3] http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/#guidelines > > > On 20/03/18 20:32, Roy Lenferink wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I also started with this task. What should one do to keep the pages to > > exist? > > > > * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Celix > > * https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Apache_Celix.png > > * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Zeppelin > > * https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Apache_Zeppelin.png > > > > And this is going on for all the pages. > > > > The response: Looking at the license, material created using the software > > is released under license. But the license does not appear to extend to > > their webpages, logos, and so on. Asking for pages to be created is not > the > > same thing as releasing copyright material under a compatible license. > > > > Even when using the main project sentence which explains the project > which > > is stored in the official README in the GitHub repository mirror a > > complaint is filed: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Apache_Zeppelin > > > > What is probably the best way to resolve this, as the information put on > > Wikipedia should match the Apache TLP its website. > > > > Roy > > > > 2018-03-15 18:40 GMT+00:00 Rich Bowen : > > > >> What I would recommend as a starting point is to go to the Apache > Software > >> Foundation wikipedia page, and stub in links to all of the projects that > >> are listed at projects.apache.org > >> > >> > >> On 03/15/2018 05:29 AM, THE THE wrote: > >> > >>> I would like to help out with the task listed at > >>> https://helpwanted.apache.org/task.html?0b349bee > >>> > >>> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@community.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@community.apache.org > >> > >> > > > > --f4f5e808eaa802b0e805681a968d--