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From Christofer Dutz <>
Subject Re: Solutions Hamburg 2018
Date Thu, 18 Jan 2018 13:36:14 GMT
Hi All,

So, I just had a meeting with Mr. Rösler from the OSBA and we talked about how we could thematically
setup our shared half-day track.

OSBA seems to advocate usage of open source in governmental organizations and are more concentrated
on products than technology. I did sense a general preference of a GPL concept, but I think
I did manage to provide the good reasons, why a more liberal license does help adoption when
it comes to technological “products”. They seem to employ a lobbyist that is trying to
counteract the commercial companies’ lobbyists in Berlin in a quest to bring more open-source
to the government in general and reduce the dependency on individual companies.  

This is the general plot we came up with:

- Into (30 min): 
o We set the stage for the track

- Open-Source’s heart is participation (40 min)
o Giving and getting back: Why giving can be rewarding
o Reasons for personal participation
o Reasons for commercial participation
• Open-Sourcing products
• Letting employees participate
• Providing commercial support

- Trust (40 min)
o Multiple-Eyes concept (open code)
o Availability of support
• Community
• Commercial
o Reduced unilateral dependency
o Protection against legal problems

- Open-Source: It’s not all the same (40 min)
o GPL vs Apache (From a license point of view)
o Eclipse vs Apache vs ? (From an organizational / community view)
o (GPL for Products / Apache for technology)?

- Wrap-Up (15 minutes)

We would share each block and provide about 50% of each block.
Providing practical examples is preferred over theoretical talks (Stories from the trenches).

Preference for German language, but not a requirement.
We would exchange our general abstracts with OSBA to allow preparing the track in a way that
it fits together.

Track-Title: TBD but should be catchy and not boring.


Am 15.01.18, 10:54 schrieb "Bertrand Delacretaz" <>:

    Hi Chris,
    Thanks for your work on this, sounds like a great plan!
    On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 10:34 AM, Christofer Dutz
    <> wrote:
    > ...As Apache was the only organization that didn’t mess up and really appeared
in person,..
    This is good to hear ;-)
    > ...Also, if someone is interested in being a Keynote Speaker at that conference (maybe
a double keynote speaker),
    > please raise your electronic hands...
    It's September 12-14 in Hamburg, right? If that's correct I could do a
    keynote on general ASF things, preferably on the 13th or 14th. It
    looks like I'll be in Berlin earlier that week anyway.
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