Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Received: from cust-asf.ponee.io (cust-asf.ponee.io [163.172.22.183]) by cust-asf2.ponee.io (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B753200D5A for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2017 23:52:10 +0100 (CET) Received: by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) id 6A56D160C16; Thu, 14 Dec 2017 22:52:10 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id B040A160BFC for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2017 23:52:09 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 16383 invoked by uid 500); 14 Dec 2017 22:52:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@community.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@community.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@community.apache.org Received: (qmail 16368 invoked by uid 99); 14 Dec 2017 22:52:08 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd3-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 14 Dec 2017 22:52:08 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd3-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd3-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id CA153180A17; Thu, 14 Dec 2017 22:52:07 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd3-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.502 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.502 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=2, KAM_NUMSUBJECT=0.5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Received: from mx1-lw-eu.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd3-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JVnXOvS02vo8; Thu, 14 Dec 2017 22:52:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from intel1.peregrinehw.com (intel1.peregrinehw.com [38.124.232.10]) by mx1-lw-eu.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-eu.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 0E9AC5F297; Thu, 14 Dec 2017 22:52:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.10.11.221] (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by intel1.peregrinehw.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id vBEMq4IS020239; Thu, 14 Dec 2017 17:52:04 -0500 Subject: Re: ApacheCon 2018 To: Leif Hedstrom References: <91eba694-6f47-e7ad-b71a-257520a601e4@gmail.com> <39b7affd-dc15-73c4-3ab2-e702b7167947@mcgrail.com> <280e871d-138f-608a-4499-98255eb9aa47@mcgrail.com> <25365F1C-9F49-4071-AC11-EE490881CA22@apache.org> <3D6EF718-F683-4FC0-9C15-B9061483E2FE@mcgrail.com> <6c5c75aa-79b1-8599-17ab-bce697a4248c@rcbowen.com> <24B15EF1-821C-439E-9461-3E9E14323C7B@apache.org> Cc: Rich Bowen , dev@community.apache.org From: "Kevin A. McGrail" Message-ID: <2433977c-6a00-15de-1b9e-738f0199cb05@mcgrail.com> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 17:52:07 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <24B15EF1-821C-439E-9461-3E9E14323C7B@apache.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------39E737F78C6CDC4B768F1C3E" Content-Language: en-US X-PCCC-Virus-Scan: No X-KAM-Reverse-AUTH: Exempt - 127.0.0.1 is an Authorized Sender X-PCCC-Authorized-User-Relay: 127.0.0.1 X-PCCC-SA-Scanned: No: Auth User X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 38.124.232.10 archived-at: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 22:52:10 -0000 --------------39E737F78C6CDC4B768F1C3E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 12/14/2017 5:41 PM, Leif Hedstrom wrote: > I’m slightly confused. I think you are saying that you want to split off, and do a “Barcamp” (or whatever we call it:), separate from AC as Rich Bowen is planning? I’m a bit -1 on that, a big driver for getting people to both “Barcamps (Summits in my case) and ApacheCon is that they are adjacent (time wise) and in the same physical location. This really helps with getting approval for travel etc. from various companies /employers. > > This doesn’t imply that we should*not* do separate BarCamps / events, that’s always been happening (we do two summits / year for my projects, with only one obviously adjacent to ACNA). So it’s possible I’m just confused, and we’re asking / saying the same things here. A) I've been to apache barcamps not associated with other AC events.  I had no similar expectation that they are same physical location and I think your vision of this event is far grander than what I would best call a mini-AC. B) Yes, the infancy-level suggestion is an event not at the same time/place as AC that Hadrian and I are trying to coordinate as a one-day event in the DC Metro area. Regards, KAM --------------39E737F78C6CDC4B768F1C3E--