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From: Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net>
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Subject: Re: Foundation Voting
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 14:44:03 -0700
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Hi Joe,

Sure we should look into svn history.

Regards,
Dave

> On Oct 18, 2017, at 2:36 PM, Joseph Schaefer =
<joe_schaefer@yahoo.com.INVALID> wrote:
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> Would be more interesting to find out the genesis of that dreck and =
why it persisted til now.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Oct 18, 2017, at 5:29 PM, Chris Johnson =
<chris@meaningfulwerks.com> wrote:
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>> Dave - this was constructive, and well thought.  I agree.
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>> CJ
>>> On Oct 18, 2017, at 4:27 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net> =
wrote:
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>>> Hi -
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>>> Does Comdev control the page /foundation/voting.html?
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>>> A member of the Apache OpenOffice community pointed out that the =
following phrase discourages participation:
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>>> Who is permitted to vote is, to some extent, a community-specific =
thing. However, the basic rule is that only PMC members have binding =
votes, and all others are either discouraged from voting (to keep the =
noise down) or else have their votes considered of an indicative or =
advisory nature only.
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>>> I think that this should be rewritten as:
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>>> Who is permitted to vote is, to some extent, a community-specific =
thing. However, the basic rule is that only PMC members have binding =
votes, and all other votes are advisory.
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>>> It has been reported that people are discouraged from participating =
with the =E2=80=9Cto keep the noise down=E2=80=9D commentary and I =
agree.
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>>> Here is a current situation in Apache OpenOffice where we have been =
regrowing the community and we just had an important -1 from a community =
member that prevented a bad release. We must be careful that the English =
on our pages is not tortured and overly pedantic.
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>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
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