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From Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Rethinking email (was Re: A plead from a chair with an overloaded mailbox.)
Date Mon, 23 Oct 2017 22:41:36 GMT
On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 5:18 AM, Harbs <harbs.lists@gmail.com> wrote:

> To me, subject tags are a partial (slightly annoying) solution to the
> problem. If there’s no better solution, then I suppose it could make things
> better, but it would likely require a lot of retraining of folks. I wonder
> how realistic that is.
>
> > ...while preserving the ubiquity of email which is *very* important in
> the
> > Apache model, IMO.
>

​Yes. Email is fine.
​


>
> To be clear, I was not suggesting removing support for email clients. I
> was rather suggesting *additional* tools which could be used to improve the
> experience.
>

​Unless these tools could somehow "merge" with the email experience, I am
not in favor of this.

I do agree that the amount of email can be very overwhelming at times, but
we have archive tools AND the Pony mail at lists.apache.org is a good way
to NOT directly subscribe while still being able to respond as you want and
are able.​



> > On Oct 20, 2017, at 11:50 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz <
> bdelacretaz@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 10:22 AM, Harbs <harbs.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> ...I’m wondering if it makes sense to take a step back and rethink
> email and communication.
> >> This feels like part of a bigger challenge...
> >
> > One of my favorite ways to make sense of busy mailing lists is to
> > require subject line [tags] for everything.
> >
> > Rich Bowen recently pointed me to  OpenStack dev list which does
> > exactly that, http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-
> June/thread.html
> >
> > This paves the way for improved mail clients or plugins which can make
> > good use of that, without requiring complicated new tools and while
> > preserving the ubiquity of email which is *very* important in the
> > Apache model, IMO.
> >
> > One thing that remains is the need for people to quote in a sane way,
> > spending a big more energy on their side to save the energy of lots of
> > people reading the result. I understand some email clients are
> > terrible at that but I'm not sure if it's a valid excuse for our
> > frequent top-quoted messes.
> >
> > -Bertrand
> >
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