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From Shane Curcuru <>
Subject Re: ASF student collaboration program
Date Sat, 30 Sep 2017 16:43:45 GMT
Carlos Sanchez wrote on 9/27/17 10:29 AM:
> Excelent idea! Let me know as I'm based in Coruña.
> Just FYI it is probably better/easier to pick some projects you are
> interested in and reach them directly as they are quite independent.

This is a great point in general, not just for this question.  The ASF
is made up of over 180+ separate, independent project communities.  Each
community works in their own spaces, and since Apache committers are
volunteers, there often isn't as much coordination between projects as
you might think.

Community Development (ComDev) - an Apache project itself - is here to
help *try* to point people in the right directions to get more help.
But again, ComDev is made up of volunteers, and isn't always familiar
with all the different Apache projects.

So the best approach for newcomers is to *write a good question*, and
then start here on dev@community.  But plan to do your own research, and
start figuring out which other Apache projects *you* have some interest
in.  It's hard to break into an opensource project if you don't have a
personal or technical interest in the code itself.

There's got to be a better way for ComDev to have some default email
replies and FAQ entries about "welcome! I see you're interested in X -
here's a few starting points to consider".  It's easy to say "you need
to do your own research to find specific projects", but providing a
little more pre-published guide for newcomers showing them how to
step-by-step consider different projects would be cool to have.

Reminder: all Apache committers are welcome to help improve the website itself. 8-)

Separately it's important to remember that while the ASF as an
organization tends to limit which programs we *officially* support,
there are a lot of Apache committers who are willing to help out and
organize, if you can catch their interest.  Just because the ASF doesn't
have a formal program for something doesn't mean that individuals can't
organize it themselves.

> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017, 15:28 Antón R. Yuste <> wrote:
>> Hi Rafa,
>> Thanks! You are more than welcome. I will ping you as soon as we start
>> the program to discuss the details and see next steps.
>> More feedback from other projects or the ASF would be also welcomed.
>> Best regards,
>> Antón
>> On 21/09/17 16:13, Rafa Haro wrote:
>>> Hi Antón,
>>> Excellent initiative! I would be more than happy to mentoring the
>> students
>>> or helping on any way.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Rafa
>>> El El jue, 21 sept 2017 a las 16:07, Antón R. Yuste <
>>> escribió:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> We (the VigoJUG) are running a collaboration program (pro bono work)
>>>> with the University of Vigo (Spain) to introduce students to Open Source
>>>> projects as part of the end of their studies. It's the equivalent to two
>>>> full signatures. The idea is to do a proof of concept with two students
>>>> this year and open it to more of them in the following courses if it's a
>>>> success.
>>>> We would like to choose some of the ASF projects and we know the ASF has
>>>> been involved in a few student programs, mostly Google
>>>> Summer of Code but also a few others directly with universities. So we
>>>> would like to know more about it if it makes sense in our case.
>>>> In our opinion the program is a win-win for everyone:
>>>>    * Students from UVigo: evangelize open-source and get real
>> experience.
>>>>    * Senior Engineers from VigoJUG: get familiar with interesting
>>>>      projects + help new engineers in our area.
>>>>    * Teachers from UVigo: they have interest in many projects of the ASF
>>>>      but they are a bit lost, this is a great opportunity for them to
>>>>      know more and look for new opportunities of collaboration.
>>>>    * ASF: some fresh blood to some projects :-)
>>>> We would need from the ASF:
>>>>    * Some projects to work with. Issues related to automate performance
>>>>      tests or profiling would be great because they have little impact
>> in
>>>>      the project and we have some experience on that and running some
>>>>      workshops on that.
>>>>    * Some initial mentorship. It should be little work, most of the
>>>>      mentoring should be done by the senior engineers of the VigoJUG but
>>>>      some initial guidance would be very helpful.
>>>> I'm not familiar with this list (yet) so I hope this email is fine here
>> :-)
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Antón


- Shane

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