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[73.97.212.103]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n11sm4361702pfg.15.2017.08.11.17.49.18 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 11 Aug 2017 17:49:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: KAM is not drunk was Re: Wristbands instead of stickers? To: dev@community.apache.org References: <6EA954C8-6912-42C2-BE8B-673EC0520D66@mcgrail.com> From: jonathon Message-ID: <3e9e8195-edb2-e2c2-b086-ddbd4c2267f7@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 00:47:10 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit archived-at: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 00:49:26 -0000 On 08/11/2017 02:09 AM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > FWIW, a computer (computationalist) was a stereotype that there were > many smart people who could not engineer, but could perform > calculations. I don't think you want to go there. Computationalist was/is a far more appropriate term, than what those individuals would otherwise have been called (^1). Depending upon whose research you believe, the first group was either exclusively black females, or white females. Either the second or third group was exclusively females of the race that the first group was not. I wouldn't be at all surprised to find "Code like a girl" used as an epithet with those women. ^1: One major issue is that the work they did was, and, to a degree, remains classified. For employment purposes a term was needed that was sufficiently vague that only those who did the job, and their immediate supervisors had a general idea of what they did, but specific enough, so that outsiders would know that their job was not-x, where "x" could be anything, including their specific job function. jonathon --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@community.apache.org