Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Received: from cust-asf.ponee.io (cust-asf.ponee.io [163.172.22.183]) by cust-asf2.ponee.io (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB389200CC4 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 10:50:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) id E9D79164816; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 08:50:50 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 6237B162EAE for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 10:50:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 69089 invoked by uid 500); 13 Jul 2017 08:50:49 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@community.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@community.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@community.apache.org Received: (qmail 69078 invoked by uid 99); 13 Jul 2017 08:50:49 -0000 Received: from mail-relay.apache.org (HELO mail-relay.apache.org) (140.211.11.15) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 08:50:49 +0000 Received: from mail-qt0-f171.google.com (mail-qt0-f171.google.com [209.85.216.171]) by mail-relay.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mail-relay.apache.org) with ESMTPSA id 5B3DD1A0AE5 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 08:50:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qt0-f171.google.com with SMTP id r30so32493096qtc.0 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 01:50:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AIVw111pRCb88b8V39RgToG+beEZCd1l2zek+EAzAE/enaKNzG+zdN0K EKo/AQk8JM3gcKAe+U4QVvxQqN17XQ== X-Received: by 10.200.14.12 with SMTP id a12mr3388604qti.115.1499935845808; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 01:50:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.12.185.153 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 01:50:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20170713082409.GA17268@localhost> References: <808CC1F9-B657-467A-BF02-DFE0045AB25E@fischlustig.de> <20170713082409.GA17268@localhost> From: Bertrand Delacretaz Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 10:50:45 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Forwarded: GitHub vs. FreeYourGadget Full Story To: dev , Isabel Drost Cc: Thoralf Klein , all@freeyourgadget.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" archived-at: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 08:50:51 -0000 On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Isabel Drost-Fromm wrote: > ...I believe this is one of those stories that are a datapoint in favour of > keeping all vital history of our projects (that is code, docs, decisions and > arguments exchanged) mirrored on systems we control... Yes, thanks very much for sharing this Isabel! The counter-argument to "your crown jewels must be stored on ASF-controlled services" is often that Some Large Nice Company Which Provides Better Tools is not going to disappear anytime soon. Your example demonstrates that it's not only about such companies disappearing, but also about them having different policies and practices than ours when it comes to legal issues, real or perceived. -Bertrand --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@community.apache.org