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From Claude Edney <claude.ed...@yahoo.com.INVALID>
Subject Re: Apache Consultants/Jobs portal?
Date Fri, 21 Jul 2017 19:25:19 GMT
totally agree sorry I know I'm new but this would help a lot of newbies to the mailing list
because with this portal we can know all the projects available so we can join up, excellent
idea! 

    On Friday, July 21, 2017 4:25 AM, Christofer Dutz <christofer.dutz@c-ware.de> wrote:
 

 Hi,

interesting topic with the job-posting … which reminds me that I wanted to ask something
going down a similar path, but couldn’t quite figure out where to ask, but I think this
list is could be the best fit :-)

For the last years I have been investing almost all my free time in Apache Projects and the
ASF itself. Unfortunately I haven’t ever been able to do a job using the projects I’m
spending all my time in. So I started thinking, why is this that way and how could this be
changed.
I think in general you will probably get more public awareness by posting articles in newspapers
or blogs, but what if I would rather invest my time in doing instead of talking?

Most people I’m currently thinking about are pros in talking about stuff others created
for them and for that they get to do fun jobs with cool projects.

So here’s my idea: How about having the opposite of the jobs mailing list? Instead of a
list where people can ask for people for a given task, we could provide an Apache portal in
which committers of ASF projects can sign up to be listed to be available and interested in
projects and consulting for the projects they invest their time in? Some automated data (committer/pmc/since
when). Some textual information where the person can write down a little about what he’s
doing in the project, where he’s located, what type of work he’s open to be doing. Making
it easier for people to find the right guy for the job. All together with a little tooling
in which someone can get in touch with the guys without simply dumping their email addresses
publicly.

On the one side this would be one list, in which you can only get listed by giving something
to the community first and on the other side it would make the less talking guys be noticed
more, eventually helping them get the jobs they deserve.

I for my part am so totally sick of doing one legacy crap project after the other for yet
another bank and am so totally losing my drive to develop at all. I’m even thinking of switching
my profession completely away from IT.
If I was able to have the companies using the stuff I build - and hereby qualify as a pro
in the topic equally as the big talkers – find me, I guess my job would be the best I could
imagine, but right now I’m so totally sick of it :-(

What do you think of a thing like this? Has something like this been discussed before?

Chris



   
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