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From Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com.INVALID>
Subject Re: IMPORTANT: Re: Forwarded: GitHub vs. FreeYourGadget Full Story
Date Thu, 13 Jul 2017 12:14:34 GMT
DMCA is hardly a panacea.  While it does absolve us of copyright infringement claims against
services used in the production of releases, it does not help in the slightest when it comes
to releases themselves.That would make the whole point of voting on them moot.
It's not urgent, not a new idea, and certainly not deserving of this level of crossposting.
 As it is in essence a legal position, 

On Thursday, July 13, 2017, 8:07:35 AM EDT, Greg Stein <gstein@gmail.com> wrote:

We already keep copies of all GitHub activity on ASF systems, as mandated
by VP Legal. The ASF is set up entirely different from GadgetBridge and our
use of GitHub is ancillary compared to them. In addition, we already have
pro bono lawyers ready to assist at any point.

Please reduce the incredibly wide range of your To: header and minimize the
subject line shouting, if there is something specific needed. It is also
unwise to cross-post across private and public lists.

Regards,
Greg Stein
Infrastructure Administrator, ASF


On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 6:29 AM, Kevin A. McGrail <kevin.mcgrail@mcgrail.com
> wrote:

> Thank you Isabel. This is an interesting issue and there are protections
> against this very quick injunction process. My own firm had something
> similar occur and I am a designated agent for the DMCA.
>
> I think the ASF should immediately file an agent with the dmca
> https://www.copyright.gov/dmca-directory/ and add a dmca agent info to
> www.a.o.
>
> It costs 6$ and I apologize I never thought about it before. Thank you for
> sending this.
>
> I have cc'd the board and vp infra. Sam or David, I suggest we register
> today and get this done.
>
> Going further check that all isps and datacenters we use in the US are
> also in their. It adds a process and protection layer to anyone filing
> complaints.
> Regards,
> KAM
>
> On July 13, 2017 4:24:09 AM EDT, Isabel Drost-Fromm <isabel@apache.org>
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I thought it would make sense to share the following story with the wider
>> Apache community (those who shared it with me are on CC and can potentially
>> provide more background should that be needed).
>>
>> I believe this is one of those stories that are a datapoint in favour of
>> keeping all vital history of our projects (that is code, docs, decisions and
>> arguments exchanged) mirrored on systems we control.
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 08:58:43AM +0200, Thoralf Klein wrote:
>>
>>>  the full story can be found here:
>>>  https://blog.freeyourgadget.org/our-dmca-takedown-a-post-mortem.html
>>>
>>>  There were also posts on heise.de and even printed in the c't. So I think the
german geeks already know it...
>>>
>>
>>
>> If you think it's interesting beyond dev@community feel free to forward my info
>> to the appropriate channels/ lists.
>>
>> Looking forward to your feedback,
>>
>> Isabel
>>
>>
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