Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Received: from cust-asf.ponee.io (cust-asf.ponee.io [163.172.22.183]) by cust-asf2.ponee.io (Postfix) with ESMTP id 647A2200C6C for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2017 06:30:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) id 62D15160BB0; Fri, 21 Apr 2017 04:30:46 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id AB0F5160B9F for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2017 06:30:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 81180 invoked by uid 500); 21 Apr 2017 04:30:44 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@community.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@community.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@community.apache.org Received: (qmail 81161 invoked by uid 99); 21 Apr 2017 04:30:44 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd2-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 21 Apr 2017 04:30:44 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd2-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd2-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 9BE501A00F2 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2017 04:30:43 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd2-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.798 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.798 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, KAM_ASCII_DIVIDERS=0.8, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.796, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd2-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=comcast.net Received: from mx1-lw-us.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd2-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.9]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A8eEL-LjMzjn for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2017 04:30:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from resqmta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.36]) by mx1-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPS id AE52C5F1D5 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2017 04:30:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from resomta-ch2-18v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.114]) by resqmta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net with SMTP id 1QDBdnsIJscBP1QDHdqdvx; Fri, 21 Apr 2017 04:30:31 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20161114; t=1492749031; bh=ta/BHg5GtkWUnFLxV7IQhEgNlJVQWdxI1LUXO3USXmk=; h=Received:Received:From:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Date:Subject: Message-Id:To; b=MJOoO2TKJhr3Z+JZU8ttJg4qzB8f86XjVgAfo1zQ+g6zf9hOE417DQ8ix7ueL97Yg 9srSfnSro9E6tAmXyDL7SD3qv4s8B6OgUuFTh1zhRX4GXqE/O8BqQ1lBOUz+kLi4qL dcXt41P4f8SOqa/jQzP7a7Aj/yjFOWyWfopy6FCM5bGdGS9d0x/z7mMb07ZS9tA7ke GYIBgZEQhsnqW/RWv0nUsDUARlJslFG2bR9/v22xO4j/OQECBggcAAk3hUvYQ8wUkt 5yiCR1WXu3qOFYYSRzYO80Y2QfeUQffKq6a2UeAX7cIIxsiaQZhP3GvtBhqh3U9Cyg qY+T9OeMjJiCg== Received: from [192.168.1.5] ([67.160.241.194]) by resomta-ch2-18v.sys.comcast.net with SMTP id 1QDFdGArqStKd1QDHd9rHB; Fri, 21 Apr 2017 04:30:31 +0000 From: Dave Fisher Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 21:30:29 -0700 Subject: Re: Trouble child OpenOffice Message-Id: References: <1B7E12CE-EB6B-4C1E-87F3-E3F3C5109DA5@comcast.net> <0b65adc1-a6a2-0b71-1d6f-331f95c3302b@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <0b65adc1-a6a2-0b71-1d6f-331f95c3302b@gmail.com> To: dev@community.apache.org X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (14E304) X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfOYmZ1Uc87gQIGlotZADJjdxj2WKN4oMfeoxMtXdAN0Lsr887G6YCSnV0726VNsOPUwf+nOMhY+0OJbG8WYDDBRrvh0VLE1BlaE1PsteLOfzuzpsUaiH O7ZmyWKgiq6pVd99ToMoa8e6RGQT1KGIeAYDKAvR4bAB5IPmsoPtADJSfSPemr7ytrWQtOgiU4kRoA== archived-at: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 04:30:46 -0000 Hadrian / Raphael, I will be at Apachecon Miami and open for any opportunity. Will either of yo= u be there? Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 20, 2017, at 9:05 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On 04/20/2017 11:06 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 4:07 AM, Raphael Bircher >> wrote: >>> Hi Ted >>>=20 >>> Am .04.2017, 06:14 Uhr, schrieb Ted Dunning : >>>=20 >>>> Raphael, >>>>=20 >>>> Why don't you get some folks together and start a company that solicits= >>>> donations to support OO development and QA work? >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> That's the Apache like style, and that's exactly the reason why i write t= o >>> community and not to the openoffice dev. We have many projects at big da= ta >>> who are really successful. How they handle this problem? How they get pa= id >>> stuff involved into their projects. Maybe we can learn from it. >>=20 >> It happens in exactly the way Ted is suggesting -- companies building pro= duct >> around Bigdata projects are handling client relationships and they pour $= $$ back >> into the projects either via hiring more developers to work on them or by= direct >> sponsorship of ASF or by promoting the projects via conferences, training= , etc. >> OR all of the above ;-) > Ok. I like a challenge. Raphael, how much, or what would it take to make w= hat you suggest happen? I am willing to pony up some cash and other resource= s. >=20 >>=20 >> The challenge that is unique to OpenOffice as you are well aware is >> the fact that >> it is both a product and a project. > That's not unique to OO. There are other projects that are a product too. T= omcat, ServiceMix, Archiva are examples. >=20 > I see other challenges and opportunities (depending on how one looks at th= e glass). For instance the fact that both MS and Google, major competitors, h= ave a cloud service offering. >=20 >>=20 >> Thanks, >> Roman. >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@community.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@community.apache.org >>=20 >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@community.apache.org >=20 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@community.apache.org