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From "Raphael Bircher" <>
Subject Re: Trouble child OpenOffice
Date Thu, 20 Apr 2017 10:27:32 GMT
Hi Toki

It's interesting how you jump in every time we talk about trouble at  
OpenOffice. I know, that you and some LibreOffice guys want to see Apache  
OpenOffice dead. If we are so bad, you should better ask your self, why  
you don't manage to take over the Apache OpenOffice users in all this  
years. Why LibreOffice lose users like the City of Munich. I'm sure you  
have answares, but I'm also sure that you will see the problem all outside  
LibreOffice. LibreOffice also lose a load of traction. Now days you have  
only 1/5 of the activity on the dev ML as you have in good times. You also  
lost payed devs in the past. At the moment you are in better condition,  
yes. But it doesn't give you the right to spread FUD over Apache  
OpenOffice. Thanks!

Am .04.2017, 07:03 Uhr, schrieb toki <>:

> On 04/19/2017 09:26 PM, Andy Wenk wrote:
>> * are there problems in the community - especially among the developers?
> What has happened to Apache OpenOffice was been entirely predictably.
> Oracle's offer checked all of the boxes for ensuring that a project
> would have no developer support.
>> * is OpenOffice not competitive any more compared to Microsoft Office?
>> * is OpenOffice not competitive any more compared to Google Docs and  
>> similar tools?
> It would be more accurate to say that LibreOffice has picked up the
> goodwill, and cachet that had.
>> * are the download numbers correct?
> Between 2015-10-01 and 2016-06-30 there were 29,137,880 downloads of
> Apache OpenOffice 4.1.2
> Between 2017-01-01 and 2017-04-19 there were 10,748,967 downloads of
> Apache OpenOffice 4.1.3
> In as much as these figures are from SourceForge, they probably are
> reasonably accurate. The big unknown is how many of these are "failed
> downloads".
> OTOH, things like the number of downloads from Cuba, San Marino, Monaco,
> and The Holy See, imply that there is an issue with either failed
> downloads, or accurate geolocation, or accurately counting of the  
> downloads.
>> * do you have an idea about the acceptance of OpenOffice in the wide  
>> world (marketing. press and so on)?
> Compare with
> jonathon
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