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From Pierre Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Vetoes for New Committers??
Date Tue, 04 Apr 2017 05:36:49 GMT
That borders on FUD.

Op di 4 apr. 2017 om 05:03 schreef Joseph Schaefer
<joe_schaefer@yahoo.com.invalid>

> Trust me niclas, you would be singing a very different tune if you
> believed something like that were happening in a project you were working
> on and you were a member of the minority powerless to put a halt to it.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 29, 2017, at 4:16 AM, Niclas Hedhman <niclas@hedhman.org> wrote:
> >
> > Well, isn't that a weak argument, since said company already have
> majority
> > and with vetoes can also block to loose such majority. If this happens, I
> > would assume that someone in the PMC would bring it to Board's attention
> to
> > look into the matter, as the only course of action against a malevolent
> > company taking control of a project, no matter which voting system you
> > apply.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Niclas
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Joseph Schaefer <
> > joe_schaefer@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> The downside to majority rule when it comes to personnel voting is that
> it
> >> can lead to a situation where a company having a majority on the pmc can
> >> increase their majority by voting in additional employees without the
> >> minority having any way to provide a check on that exercise of power.
> Yes
> >> this has come up in the past.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 8:03 PM, Niclas Hedhman <niclas@hedhman.org>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>> on
> https://community.apache.org/newcommitter.html#new-committer-process
> >> it
> >>> describes the process of bringing in a new committer for a "typical
> >>> project".
> >>>
> >>> But in the "Discussion" it speaks of "3 +1 and no vetoes"... Is it
> really
> >>> "typical" that projects use vetoes for new committers? I can't recall
> >>> seeing that anywhere, not saying it is incorrect, but asking whether it
> >>> really is "typical".
> >>>
> >>> Perhaps we should provide links to a handful of well-known project's
> >>> processes, to both give a template for projects to work with as well as
> >>> different approaches.
> >>>
> >>> Anyone has any opinion on this matter?
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>> --
> >>> Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer
> >>> http://polygene.apache.org - New Energy for Java
> >>
> >>
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> >
> >
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> > Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer
> > http://polygene.apache.org - New Energy for Java
>
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Pierre Smits

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