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From Joseph Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com.INVALID>
Subject Re: Vetoes for New Committers??
Date Tue, 04 Apr 2017 03:02:56 GMT
Trust me niclas, you would be singing a very different tune if you believed something like
that were happening in a project you were working on and you were a member of the minority
powerless to put a halt to it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 29, 2017, at 4:16 AM, Niclas Hedhman <niclas@hedhman.org> wrote:
> 
> Well, isn't that a weak argument, since said company already have majority
> and with vetoes can also block to loose such majority. If this happens, I
> would assume that someone in the PMC would bring it to Board's attention to
> look into the matter, as the only course of action against a malevolent
> company taking control of a project, no matter which voting system you
> apply.
> 
> Cheers
> Niclas
> 
> On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Joseph Schaefer <
> joe_schaefer@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> The downside to majority rule when it comes to personnel voting is that it
>> can lead to a situation where a company having a majority on the pmc can
>> increase their majority by voting in additional employees without the
>> minority having any way to provide a check on that exercise of power.  Yes
>> this has come up in the past.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 8:03 PM, Niclas Hedhman <niclas@hedhman.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> on https://community.apache.org/newcommitter.html#new-committer-process
>> it
>>> describes the process of bringing in a new committer for a "typical
>>> project".
>>> 
>>> But in the "Discussion" it speaks of "3 +1 and no vetoes"... Is it really
>>> "typical" that projects use vetoes for new committers? I can't recall
>>> seeing that anywhere, not saying it is incorrect, but asking whether it
>>> really is "typical".
>>> 
>>> Perhaps we should provide links to a handful of well-known project's
>>> processes, to both give a template for projects to work with as well as
>>> different approaches.
>>> 
>>> Anyone has any opinion on this matter?
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> --
>>> Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer
>>> http://polygene.apache.org - New Energy for Java
>> 
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> 
> 
> -- 
> Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer
> http://polygene.apache.org - New Energy for Java


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