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From Mohammad Noureldin <>
Subject Re: Apache and Java
Date Sun, 19 Mar 2017 20:23:24 GMT

   I believe also it might have to do with timing reasons.

When Open Source software started to prove by time that it can get people
together to produce high quality software that different
businesses​/enterprises can trust to operate their business, Java/JEE was
at the center of the hype, and it was adopted by many businesses, and still.

Given Tomcat was becoming more and more popular as a big success story of
Open Source, and the word spread about ASF as a friendly Open Source
community, that helped in attracting more and more projects.

This plus other reasons, already mentioned in this thread and more, might
have played a role in making it look like as ASF is only a place for Java
based projects.

ASF does not mandate or require a project to be implemented in Java more
than any other programming language or platform more than it cares about
making sure that the community built around a project is healthy and
growing (if possible)

@Spaghetti Roulette: I am wondering why did this confuse you in the first
place ? Do you have an idea that you would like to bring to ASF that is not
implemented in Java ?

On Mar 19, 2017 20:57, "Christopher" <> wrote:

> I think you've got the question backwards. The ASF does not really create
> projects. Projects create development communities at ASF. So, I think the
> real question should be: what makes Apache so appealing to Java-based
> projects?
> I think the answer to that question is probably "the same things that make
> it appealing to any other project". I don't think the ASF is particularly
> suited for Java projects over any other language. The prevalence of Java
> here is probably mostly historical, with some projects following the build
> tooling (ant, ivy, maven) and dependencies (tomcat, commons), because
> they've seen the success of those projects they depend on here.
> Java itself also probably has something to do with it... Java is a popular
> language and it's going to have a high representation in any sufficiently
> large community. Java is also prone to modularization with a high number of
> smaller projects than fewer larger ones.
> It's also possible that Java is just an easier language to build a
> community around?
> In short, it's probably not just coincidence; there's probably some causal
> reasons, but I don't think it matters much, because the ASF doesn't
> prescribe languages.
> On Sun, Mar 19, 2017, 04:33 Spaghetti Roulette <
> >
> wrote:
> > Why do Apache projects use Java so extensively? It looks to me that a lot
> > of projects, if not most of them, are written in Java, and I can't get my
> > head around this fact. Is there any reason, perhaps technical, or is it
> > just coincidence?
> >
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