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From Luciano Resende <>
Subject Re: MSDN Subscription for Apache Committers
Date Wed, 29 Mar 2017 20:26:16 GMT
On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Raphael Bircher <>

> Hi Luciano, *
> Can we really expect that? I don't think. The subscription we get costs a
> load of money per year for normal people out there. We have to be lucky for
> such an offer. I think, Microsoft don't like to support a inactive
> committer, who save a load of money and work anymore for the ASF. So I
> understand, that they only give the subscribtion for a year. So I think we
> should be thankful for this.

Various companies provide free license for their products for open source
usage (e.g. InteliJ, Atlassian) and they have a very simple process for
applying. Looks like for MS we don't have a simple process to apply
anomore, so I was looking at alternatives, and one that came to mind was to
after going through the "long validation process", then the committer is
approved for a long term subscription. Then we could definetly tweak the
process, periodically simle revalidation, where committer would say I am
still using for Open Source purposes, or Termination when MS stop providing
the functionality.

> I was also profiting two years from the MSDN Subscription, even the main
> work was for Apache OpenOffice!
> Also MS is one of the longest standing Platium sponsor from the ASF (or
> the longest)
Sure, but we are also producing software that works on the MS platform, and
without the subscription, it gets harder to validate and support gets stale
(e.g a notebook project I help has been having build and running issues on
Windows, and I don't have a valid license to try to fix this on the Win
platform) ... So I believe it's a mutual benefit here.

Luciano Resende

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