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From Jim Jagielski <>
Subject Re: Vetoes for New Committers??
Date Wed, 29 Mar 2017 13:22:07 GMT

> On Mar 29, 2017, at 9:11 AM, Pierre Smits <> wrote:
> Applying the 'consensus', (or rather the 'every thing must be discussed
> first') aspect everywhere is equally tyrranical.
> Hence the existence of the simple majority vote (50% of votes cast, + 1
> with a min of 3 votes) for procedural matters. And onboarding new
> committers, members, officers, etc. is a procedural matter. Unless, of
> course, explicitly defined in bylaws.
> A -1 is nothing more than an expression of a viewpoint. Without all the
> rhetoric!

The issue w/ majority ruling is that it tends to self-perpetuate,
and ensure that the majority continues to rule. It is ripe for

If a PMC must "resort" to resolving things via "well, the majority ruled
for it" then, imo, it is NOT a healthy and viable community, NOT one
that will survive long term, NOT one which in in tune with the

Consistent lack of being able to achieve consensus is a symptom of dysfunction
and a severe warning sign. It is not to be ignored.
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