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From: Roman Shaposhnik <roman@shaposhnik.org>
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2016 14:04:01 -0800
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Subject: Re: What's the plan? What are we here for?
To: ComDev <dev@community.apache.org>
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archived-at: Tue, 06 Dec 2016 22:04:13 -0000

On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:38 AM, Daniel Gruno <humbedooh@apache.org> wrote:
> I might ask; What else is the purpose of this PMC? Why have a PMC, if
> the PMC is unwilling to do anything but their own individual interests
> with seemingly little to no regard to whether it's within the mission
> and reason behind ComDev. It's supposed to be a Project Management
> Committee, and yet we're reluctant to manage anything here.

That's an excellent question. I believe that the activity that's
happening in the PMC
is all in support of its charter. Rich is saying -- lets do more of it
and be more active.
I'm all for it -- although I can't really commit to doing more than
what I'm already doing
for community development (which I happen to have feedback from various people
is considered to be quite a bit). Rich is doing fantastic job with
Events and Outreach.
This stuff is happening.

Your question is more along the lines of: at which point should the
board look at ComDev
and ask itself a question: "is there enough stuff happening for it to
still be a project?".
That's an excellent question and I honestly don't know how to answer
it. I do, however,
know how that question is answered for code-producing PMCs. It happens
by filling
in a bunch of data points starting from:
   * when was the last time a PMC member was elected?
   * when was the last release?
   * what's the level of activity
   * etc...

So perhaps starting with applying most of the same metrics here would
help us understand
'how ComDev PMC is doing'. Just a thought.

Thanks,
Roman.

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