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From Alex Harui <>
Subject Re: Results: ASF Committer Diversity Survey
Date Wed, 21 Dec 2016 19:17:31 GMT

On 12/21/16, 11:05 AM, "Pierre Smits" <> wrote:

>To much work? For whom? In what period?
>Does is require a combined effort? A plan? Or just a firing from the hip?

Well, I think it would be good to get a new number "soon".  Sounded like
Daniel could get a number from commits quickly.  Not sure how hard it
would be to add in mailing list activity.  But opening the discussion to
where else to look and actually looking made me think it would take longer
and more energy than it was worth.  Hopefully folks who earned commit
rights for spending time elsewhere occasionally drop by their dev@.  They
should just so folks can know what is going on only by following dev@.

Just my 2 cents though.  I won't be doing the work or stopping anyone from

>Best regards,
>Pierre Smits
>OFBiz based solutions & services
>OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
>On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 6:56 PM, Alex Harui <> wrote:
>> On 12/21/16, 9:01 AM, "Rich Bowen" <> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >On 12/21/2016 08:32 AM, A. Soroka wrote:
>> >> Not to say that this isn't a good first step, but that is definitely
>> >>not going to capture a lot of important engagement. At Apache Jena we
>> >>recently elected an excellent committer who has never made a single
>> >>commit. Instead we elected him to recognize his fantastic involvement
>> >>with the community answering questions and helping new users.
>> >>
>> >> I'm not sure what to do about that (measurement-wise) but perhaps as
>> >>future move, the base list of committers for a project could be joined
>> >>against stats from the mailing lists for that project?
>> >>
>> >
>> >Yes, this was my point exactly. Thanks for articulating. Probably would
>> >need to combine mlist + commit + tickets + ... other stuff? Some
>> >communities have active contributors who spend their time answering
>> >questions on IRC, G+, Facebook, StackOverflow, etc.
>> That's starting to sound like too much work.  Would be nice to get
>> but a first approximation of mlist + commit should give us a rough idea
>> for how far off the original 13% response rate number might be.
>> My 2 cents,
>> -Alex

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