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From Matthew Sacks <matt...@matthewsacks.com>
Subject Re: Results: ASF Committer Diversity Survey
Date Wed, 21 Dec 2016 02:47:29 GMT
Alex, what does this have anything to do with diversity?

I think the main point here is Sharan's survey results and what that data
means for the ASF and its future.

To me it shows a great deal of opportunity to expand the influence of the
ASF in it's general rol of software stewardship, and policy as well.

The data shows to me an opportunity to include and outreach, which is key
to the ASF's survival (corporate donations come and go, commmitters, the
best ones [Chairs, Board Members, and Members] are selected from the
community of committers based on their Merit; one of the core principles I
have learned from my brief time being involved in the ASF starting back in
2008 or so.

With all of the puffery out of the way, myself included, let's focus now on
*including* the people listed in the survey who want to make a
contribution. Now that we have the data we can include the folks who seem
misrepresented or under-represented in the ASF.

Additionally, I believe it imperative to use *our own software (Mahout -
machine learning) to better identify such candidates using Machine learning
software from the ASF. If our own software cannot solve this problem, a
survey should not have been taken in the first place.

-M



On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 6:30 PM Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com> wrote:

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> On 12/20/16, 8:11 AM, "Rich Bowen" <rbowen@rcbowen.com> wrote:
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> >On 12/19/2016 08:36 AM, Sharan F wrote:
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> >> A big thank you to everyone that has helped or participated in getting
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> >> the Committer Diversity Survey out, and also to all the committers that
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> >> this information and see what it tells us about our committer base.
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> >> I've loaded the main data and graphs from the survey onto the Community
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> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/ASF+Committer+Diversit
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> >> In total we received 765 responses (out of a 5861 committer base at the
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> >> time the survey was run) so around a 13% response rate.
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> >It would be useful to pursue Niclas' assertion that most of our
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> >registered committers are inactive. I'd think that if we define
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> >"inactive" in some measurable way, we could determine some actual
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> >Either way, though, given how anti-survey we have been in the past, 13%
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> How hard would it be to generate the count of all apache ids that
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> committed to any ASF repo in the last N months?
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> -Alex
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