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From Christopher <ctubb...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [QUESTION] Is Maven Central part of the ASF infrastructure?
Date Tue, 06 Dec 2016 21:28:53 GMT
I think my question was lost in the details. It makes sense that Maven
defaults to using repo.maven.apache.org for the reasons stated.

However, I was wondering why
  repo.maven.apache.org points to repo.apache.maven.org / 151.101.32.215
(currently non-canonical*)
    instead of
  repo.maven.apache.org pointing to repo1.maven.org / 151.101.32.209,
(currently canonical*)

Looking at DNS alone, these are separate destinations. However, for all I
know, Sonatype considers them equivalent internally and load-balances
between them. The inconsistency with the resolution of the default and the
resolution of what is documented is still confusing, though, to anybody
looking at the DNS entries.

* canonical according to Sonatype; in practice, whatever
repo.maven.apache.org points to could be considered canonical "central"
repo.

On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 2:22 PM Stephen Connolly <
stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:

> One of the reasons why we have maven point to repo.maven.apache.org is
> such
> that if "the worst" happened, and sonatype was no longer providing the
> service *and* there were delays transferring the maven.org domains then
> the
> Maven PMC would be able to re-point the domain under our control
> immediately to one of the other non-sonatype replicas and allow continuity
> of service for users.
>
> We do not envision this being required, but we have plans in place just in
> case
>
> HTH
>
> On Fri 2 Dec 2016 at 16:35, Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> > No that's perfectly fine as is.
> >
> > Apache Maven uses the maven.apache.org domain. It *currently* points to
> > maven.org, which is co-operated by Sonatype and the Apache Maven PMC.
> > Sonatype hosts the maven.org domain and pays the servers and all the
> > bandwith (which would cost the ASF quite a lot). Otoh Sonatype gained a
> lot
> > of impact and data and thus I'm pretty sure it indirectly pays off for
> > them. There is a MOU on file between the ASF and Sonatype. It took us
> quite
> > a bit of discussions to reach this agreement and it proved to be a good
> > compromise as far as I can tell.
> >
> > LieGrue,
> > strub
> >
> > > Am 02.12.2016 um 10:41 schrieb Christopher <ctubbsii@apache.org>:
> > >
> > > I wonder if ASF should update its CNAMEs to point to repo1.maven.org
> > > instead of repo.apache.maven.org, since Sonatype lists repo1.maven.org
> > as
> > > Central's canonical location.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 4:17 AM Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de.invalid
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> This is the domain Apache Maven uses as default repository.
> > >> It is a CNAME dns entry currently pointing to maven.org.
> > >>
> > >> LieGrue,
> > >> Strub
> > >>
> > >>> Am 02.12.2016 um 09:39 schrieb Jacques Le Roux <
> > >> jacques.le.roux@les7arts.com>:
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks Roman, Manfred,
> > >>>
> > >>> It's clear now. Just a last question, what is exactly
> > >> http://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2/ <
> > http://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2/>
> > >> ?
> > >>>
> > >>> Jacques
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Le 01/12/2016 à 23:24, Manfred Moser a écrit :
> > >>>> Correct. There are a number of other large repositories that also
> feed
> > >> into the Central Repo and the ASF has some control over all of it from
> > all
> > >> I know.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Manfred
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Roman Shaposhnik wrote on 2016-12-01 14:23:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Jacques Le Roux
> > >>>>> <jacques.le.roux@les7arts.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>> I'm new to the Maven world (through Gradle), and I wonder:
is
> Maven
> > >> Central
> > >>>>>> part of the ASF infrastructure?
> > >>>>> No. But it does mirror all of the artifacts released by ASF.
The
> > >>>>> official ASF Maven repository is at:
> > >>>>>  http://repository.apache.org
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>> Roman.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
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