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From Rich Bowen <>
Subject Re: Does GSoC help develop communities?
Date Mon, 05 Dec 2016 17:38:03 GMT

On 12/05/2016 08:59 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> I disagree with the need for comdev to have a strategy.

I'd like to respond to just this remark.

ComDev has a goal. It is stated in the resolution that created the PMC.
That goal is:

to establish a Project Management  Committee charged with coordinating
community development efforts.

Now, that's very poorly defined. But there are a number of us here who
have had "community manager", "community liaison", and "community
development lead" on our business cards at one point or another, and
many more of us who have had this role with respect to a project, ASF or
otherwise, over the years. I think that we can, and should, come up with
a definition of what our goal is *as a PMC*.

This is not to say that individuals can't do whatever the heck that they
want, when they want, with whom they want. But as a PMC we have an
obligation to the board and to the Foundation, to work towards the goal
stated in our founding charter. And I think we have an obligation, also,
to measure whether the things that we are doing are actually beneficial
to that goal.

We are a PMC, but we're not a traditional code-based PMC that is
producing a product. And, thus, we have, for the most part, operated in
a "let's do whatever" manner for most of our existence.

Again, I'm not suggesting that we have a 10 year plan and fire people
who don't work towards it. Although, a 10 year plan isn't such a
terrible idea. But I do think that we, as a PMC, need a much clearer
idea of our reason for existence, and that it needs to extend broader
than just participating in GSoC.

GSoC is wonderful but I would like to know whether it actually benefits
"community development." I don't really understand why asking for a
measure of that - ANY measure of that - is controversial.

However, on my other points, look for a separate thread discussing that,

Rich Bowen - - @rbowen - @apachecon

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