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From Ross Gardler <Ross.Gard...@microsoft.com>
Subject Re: recognizing valuable non-code contributions
Date Sat, 15 Oct 2016 02:02:07 GMT
Many more than one, in fact one of the early members fits this category.

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From: hedhman@gmail.com <hedhman@gmail.com> on behalf of Niclas Hedhman <niclas@hedhman.org>
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 4:11:59 PM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: recognizing valuable non-code contributions

Reminder, ASF has at least one *Member* who doesn't (didn't?) know how to
operate source control. But very valuable to the foundation in other ways.

Cheers

On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 11:04 PM, sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 14 October 2016 at 15:13, A. Soroka <ajs6f@virginia.edu> wrote:
> > I was responding to a previous message from Greg Chase:
> >
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.apache.org%2Fthread.html%2F34f2f4859aac61141cfe903a692c58&data=01%7C01%7CRoss.Gardler%40microsoft.com%7C71298d6b19d14078a42f08d3f487914d%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1&sdata=snrwvush6yedeeYJJFAgKSxlx7GCT4%2FOHFiZdhP3jnQ%3D&reserved=0
> 06e50282eb6ca388a7f8959d35@%3Cdev.community.apache.org%3E
> >
> > but perhaps I read too much into his remark "As a frequent non-code
> contributor to several projects, having people like us as PMC (or PPMC)
> members seems to do the trick."
>
> I see.
>
> In order to commit, one must be a committer, but the reverse is not true.
> People with committer status don't have to commit code.
> They may commit docn or not commit at all.
>
> > ---
> > A. Soroka
> > The University of Virginia Library
> >
> >> On Oct 14, 2016, at 10:08 AM, sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 14 October 2016 at 12:16, A. Soroka <ajs6f@virginia.edu> wrote:
> >>> Thanks, community thinkers!
> >>>
> >>> The consensus is overwhelming for being generous with committer status.
> >>>
> >>> (Additionally, just as a point of record, it seems that at least some
> projects are indeed giving PMC membership without committer status, so that
> does seem to be reasonable Apache-fu, when appropriate.)
> >>
> >> I'm not sure what you mean by "committer status" here.
> >>
> >> To become a PMC member currently requires an ASF login and this
> >> automatically gives committer karma on many projects.
> >> To get an ASF login requires an ICLA.
> >>
> >> AIUI there are no plans to relax these requirements.
> >>
> >>> ---
> >>> A. Soroka
> >>> The University of Virginia Library
> >>>
> >>>> On Oct 13, 2016, at 9:30 PM, Shane Curcuru <asf@shanecurcuru.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Luciano Resende wrote on 10/13/16 9:20 PM:
> >>>>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 6:06 PM, Rich Bowen <rbowen@rcbowen.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Oct 13, 2016 12:26, "Daniel Gruno" <humbedooh@apache.org>
wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Top-posting because yay ponies!
> >>>>>>> We've elected people committers in HTTPd solely due to them
> helping out
> >>>>>>> on IRC. There is no rule that says you must write aaaaanything
> down in a
> >>>>>>> file (code or documentation or otherwise) to become a committer
:)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Any contribution can count towards merit.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Also, more than one person who was made a docs committer on
httpd
> went on
> >>>>>> to make small code contributions. And some not so small. Point
> being, when
> >>>>>> you extend trust, most people will rise to that level.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm a strong believer in handing out commit early and easy.
If
> someone
> >>>>>> breaks something, revert it. No harm done.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> +1, I just wished some of the existing projects are watching this
> thread.
> >>>>>
> >>>> This is exactly the kind of helpful guidance that folks should feel
> free
> >>>> to write content for the ComDev website.  Much easier to share when
> it's
> >>>> at a permanent URL.
> >>>>
> >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.apache.org%2Fnewbiefaq.html%23websitecms&data=01%7C01%7CRoss.Gardler%40microsoft.com%7C71298d6b19d14078a42f08d3f487914d%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1&sdata=y1bNNtOLtvtkL0NK7b8OGwQZhd51xOf4rkSFIR9NJVs%3D&reserved=0
> >>>>
> >>>> And using the CMS, anyone can make suggested changes just from a web
> >>>> browser - even non-committers!
> >>>>
> >>>> - Shane
> >>>>
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