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From: Kay Schenk To: dev@community.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113eafa8b5ed830533995858 archived-at: Tue, 24 May 2016 16:50:05 -0000 --001a113eafa8b5ed830533995858 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Rich Bowen wrote: > > > On 05/20/2016 03:02 PM, Pierre Smits wrote: > > Will the board consider it, is an appropriate question here? > > > > Community development activities have been delegated to the ComDev PMC. > There's no reason for the board to consider it. > > > =E2=80=8BPardon my ignorance. I had NO idea that community development was associated with an actual project complete with a PMC until I saw this statement.=E2=80=8B =E2=80=8B There's no mention or link to it from the ASF home page from the Community section, for example. It might be helpful to have some additional information about the importance of "community" stated there with links to the Comdev website: http://community.apache.org/, =E2=80=8B > > > Best regards, > > > > Pierre Smits > > > > ORRTIZ.COM > > OFBiz based solutions & services > > > > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ > > > > On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 7:25 PM, Ross Gardler < > Ross.Gardler@microsoft.com> > > wrote: > > > >> My point is that the Members *are* the foundation. The board are 9 the > >> Members are 550+ > >> > >> Ross > >> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: gchase@gmail.com [mailto:gchase@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Greg > >>> Chase > >>> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 10:20 AM > >>> To: dev@community.apache.org > >>> Subject: Re: Encouraging More Women to Participate on Apache Projects= ? > >>> > >>> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Ross Gardler > >>> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> The board can consider it or the members can do it. > >>>> > >>> > >>> Outreach is only meaningful at the individual and project level, yes. > >>> > >>> Measurement, in aggregate, is something the Foundation could do if it > >> wants > >>> to make this a central issue. > >>> > >>> I don't think I'd even want to drill down the census by project level= , > >> however. > >>> That would not be beneficial. Only providing aggregate numbers to > remind > >>> people of the importance and benefit of diversity, and stimulate more > of > >> the > >>> meaningful individual and project outreach. > >> > > > > > -- > Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen > http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon > > --=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- MzK "Time spent with cats is never wasted." -- Sigmund Freud --001a113eafa8b5ed830533995858--