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From Ross Gardler <Ross.Gard...@microsoft.com>
Subject RE: cross-project communication space?
Date Thu, 12 May 2016 17:58:40 GMT
I should add that I wasn't applying that quote to anyone's opinion, and certainly not calling
anyone a heathen ;-) I just thought it was humorous and I love Terry Pratchett who riffed
on this quote for many years ("turtles all the way down").

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ross Gardler [mailto:Ross.Gardler@microsoft.com]
> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 10:56 AM
> To: dev@community.apache.org
> Subject: RE: cross-project communication space?
> 
> -1 on a PMC to coordinate the coordination of a cross-project coordination :-)
> 
> I just put the following quote in a deck I'll be using lately, seems applicable...
> 
> My opponent’s reasoning reminds me of the heathen, who, being asked on
> what the world stood, replied, “on a tortoise.” But on what does the tortoise
> stand? “On another tortoise.”
> Joseph Barker (1854)
> 
> It's a mailing list, it's not that important in and of itself. If you want a home for
> the kick-off (e.g. this conversation) and the eventual retirement (if that ever
> comes) then ComDev is the place. It might make sense to formally assign the
> ownership of the list to ComDev so that should it ever reach retirement that
> PMC is empowered to request infra remove it. But otherwise it’s just a list.
> 
> Ross
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sergio Fernández [mailto:wikier@apache.org]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 10:41 AM
> > To: dev@community.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: cross-project communication space?
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Greg Chase <greg@gregchase.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Interesting topic.  I agree "community" is where the "meta-discussion"
> > > of this happens. However, the actual implementation of cross
> > > community collaboration will happen in the relevant and engaged
> > > communities themselves.
> > >
> >
> > exactly
> >
> >
> > > Its almost like the "cross topic" would have its own mini PMC with
> > > representatives from the engaged communities.
> >
> >
> > well, I wouldn't want to go that far for now... but if this works for
> > more case we may want to take a look what other foundations do, like
> > the working groups in Eclipse:
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.ec
> > lip
> >
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> >
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> >
> > > The list would be archived if / when at any time the organizers
> > > dwindled to 0.
> > >
> >
> > +++1
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sergio Fernández
> > Partner Technology Manager
> > Redlink GmbH
> > m: +43 6602747925
> > e: sergio.fernandez@redlink.co
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