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From Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>
Subject Re: Making license adjustment tools publicly available
Date Mon, 07 Mar 2016 01:46:46 GMT
To close a loop on this: based on the consensus I created a public
version of the tools under:
    http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/comdev/tools/licensing/

My attempts of preserving the history weren't successfully since
private and public are two different SVN repos (you can't just svn cp/mv).
I don't think this is that big of a deal, but please let me know if it is.

Finally, I'd like to remove content of:
    https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/relicense/
and replace it with a README.txt saying that the content has moved
to a new public location. Please let me know if that sounds ok.

My final step would be to update a few bits of publicly visible documentation
to point to a new public location.

Thanks,
Roman.

On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 8:33 AM, Shane Curcuru <asf@shanecurcuru.org> wrote:
> Christopher wrote on 2/4/16 7:25 PM:
>> It might be relevant that that both of those tools appear to be licensed
>> under ASL 2.0, which explicitly permits redistribution (presumably outside
>> the private area?). I would think it confusing to have an open source
>> license on software which is expected to remain private, or otherwise
>> restricted from redistribution. As such, it seems prudent to move them to a
>> more appropriate area. That's my opinion, anyway.
>
> Yes, the Apache license explicitly gives broad permissions.  But the ASF
> organizationally is very conservative about actually redistributing
> software.  That is, we *could* legally redistribute some random software
> we found under AL or MIT or the like, but if someone makes it clear they
> *didn't* intend to submit it to an Apache project, then we'll generally
> respect their wishes.
>
> In this case, it's all work done by ASF Committers for the purpose of
> doing work on Apache projects, so I can't see why it would be a problem.
>  It's most likely that once Apache projects finished updating to 2.0
> license, no-one bothered to think of these tools again.
>
> In any case, I would definitely recommend either testing them, or
> putting in behavior so that it doesn't actually change files in the
> default command line (to prevent surprises, if it doesn't work as
> someone anticipated).
>
> - Shane
>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 7:14 PM Roman Shaposhnik <rvs@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> a podling recently asked me why:
>>>     https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/relicense/
>>>     https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/tools/copy2license.pl
>>> are only available to commiters. I see
>>> no reason why, but of course I'm appreciative
>>> of the warning here:
>>>     https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/README
>>>
>>> Two questions:
>>>    1. Is there any disagreement that making this tool publically
>>>     available would be a 'good thing' ?
>>>     2. Who should bless the svn mv if we all agree?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Roman.
>>>
>>
>

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