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From "Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamil...@acm.org>
Subject RE: Guiding volunteers
Date Sat, 06 Feb 2016 18:20:45 GMT
In the case of GSoC mentoring, one needed change is to add the search case http://s.apache.org/gsoc2016tasks
or maybe a generic http://s.apache.org/gsoctasks.

Then the Guide to being a mentor can be updated to match that and not continue to mention
"gsoc2011".  

This requires adding a public filter to the ASF JIRA and I am not certain who has the karma
and skills to do that (being on a bugzilla-based project myself and my JIRA skills are past
their use-by date).

QUESTION #1: If we want to broaden this mentoring of volunteers under other conditions, I
assume that can be done by additional labelling cases along with or separate from any gsoc
label.  Yes?

QUESTION #2: For non-GSoC mentoring of volunteers on a bugzilla-reliant project, I assume
using the special JIRA arrangement and mailing list that has been dedicated to GSoC needs
an alternative or modification.  We still need a generic place for volunteer to be able to
look when looking for mentoring, but that might guide them to a variety of places.  Are there
thoughts on how to flex that GSoC-focused arrangement in some manner, or to cross-connect
with a generic arrangement?

 - Dennis


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rich Bowen [mailto:rbowen@rcbowen.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 23:37
> To: dev@community.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Guiding volunteers
> 
> 
> 
> On 02/05/2016 08:23 AM, Ross Gardler wrote:
> > This focus on tooling is the wrong focus,
> 
> Yeah .. I was going to say ... we could spend weeks down the rat-hole of
> which tool, which tracker, which technology, and we'll lose track of the
> goal.
> 
> Invariably when I travel to events, I get excited about what we could do
> at Apache to get the word out, if only ... and then I get back home and
> real life pushes out those good intentions. Tomorrow is the last day of
> my travels. Perhaps I can get something done today ...
> 
> 
> 
> especially for those of us who don't know how to get started on new
> tooling, or for those who recognize we already have a fine tool for the
> job - we're just not communicating it well.
> >
> > Here are three concreate actions *anyone* with a little time available
> can take today.
> >
> > 1) Update the page at http://community.apache.org/guide-to-being-a-
> mentor.html to be more generic (i.e. not GSOC specific) and reflect the
> goals of this thread (if you don't know how to use the ASF CMS to edit
> our site I've pasted the markdown below, just edit here and someone can
> put it onto the site for you)
> >
> > 2) Pick your favourite project. Drop a mail to the dev list. Explain
> your motivation. Ask them to mark issues according to the guidelines in
> http://community.apache.org/guide-to-being-a-mentor.html
> >
> > 3) Get the message out to those who need a little guidance that they
> can find such issues in JIRA (there are many ways this can be done, all
> of them are good ;-)
> >
> >
> >
> > Ross
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Venkat Raman [mailto:ramanindya55@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 7:55 PM
> > To: dev@community.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Guiding volunteers
> >
> > Hi -
> >
> > It would be extremely helpful to have systems like savannah to newbies
> to dive in based on their skill sets and area of interest.I would like
> to contribute as well. But, struggling in the same way as others to get
> started.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Venkat
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org>
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2/4/2016 10:35 AM, Greg Chase wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> An alternative approach would be a help-wanted page, organized
> >>> according
> >>>> to skills, maintained on the same sort of system as the board
> agenda.
> >>>> Each
> >>>> PMC chair whose project is looking for volunteers would supply
> >>>> information about their needs. The result would be a public web
> page
> >>>> potential volunteers could search.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ideally, it would be on a whimsey-like system, but a start could be
> >>>> made by just defining a format and keeping the master page in a PMC
> >>>> chair accessible SVN archive.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> This is a wonderful idea.  I've been looking for a way to get the
> >>>> various
> >>> incubating communities I'm helping organize recruit new
> contributors.
> >>> This
> >>> would help solve this problem by making it easier for (p)PMC's to
> >>> articulate what they would like help with from new community
> members.
> >>>
> >>> Obviously it would be an adhoc system, and up to projects to fill
> out
> >>> and keep their want ad's up to date.  Perhaps a rule of the system
> >>> would be that want ads are automatically deleted after a month if
> >>> they aren't visited and renewed by project members to verify they
> are still current.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I like the idea of automatic disappearance, but maybe make it three
> >> months and tie it to the board report cycle - every time a PMC files
> a
> >> board report, it should also check and update its help wanted.
> >>
> >>
> >>> So basically, I'm volunteering to help here :)
> >>>
> >>
> >> I would also like to help, but don't know how to get something like
> >> this started.
> >>
> >> Patricia
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks & Regards,
> >
> > Venkat Raman. R
> >
> 
> 
> --
> Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon


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