Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 335611764A for ; Sun, 17 Jan 2016 02:51:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 29248 invoked by uid 500); 17 Jan 2016 02:51:49 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@community.apache.org Received: (qmail 28923 invoked by uid 500); 17 Jan 2016 02:51:49 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@community.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@community.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@community.apache.org Received: (qmail 28911 invoked by uid 99); 17 Jan 2016 02:51:49 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO spamd3-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 17 Jan 2016 02:51:49 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd3-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd3-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id A769318061F for ; Sun, 17 Jan 2016 02:51:48 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd3-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd3-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=rowe-clan-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from mx1-us-east.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd3-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uZ9Q6uV-mVmz for ; Sun, 17 Jan 2016 02:51:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-io0-f180.google.com (mail-io0-f180.google.com [209.85.223.180]) by mx1-us-east.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-us-east.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 9065843F3A for ; Sun, 17 Jan 2016 02:51:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-io0-f180.google.com with SMTP id q21so521245141iod.0 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 18:51:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rowe-clan-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=zdLMm/CPKBVwyOuriwbtCizat5HbuportrTq3cVbQes=; b=kQ0Gb0l0fWFB+0pkrhN6iJ9IObD4BJBC2/q2sk/p47DLnJ6uSdxt9rCekQxYjjZslw V2Bic7Zkhzw8/ZP03lxDLd7X80iOlDvhIW3W5gSXW3NDdNfwWBgElrwMJifb5aETpJok qETABEYs+ILk8OMExCg6ki8SBUYrzkdJAE2YgslHv/cMV5PWrMJIiQa5uglOWHjy494n mUhX9RQOXnTvWgfogt+ywo1w1fRO3H/SqOjHR3y6SoghDlezxsHztbpeppW4yB/7jgH6 0AKD88H+zIv7oWC91VglizCkSef4Dbze99NIM07/nLuMmmbtSjLtfy94L/PcT6JX7NeW 94xQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zdLMm/CPKBVwyOuriwbtCizat5HbuportrTq3cVbQes=; b=RK1+uRiC/4QUFf17GajYojwMeCjoS6wcmsyvwOm0U4KTP55f0YwcYaa4EnreeG1nbn jrqL5WhN3HK7ZrW9rhfyUvrEuEIr+heT3gxlblwo/sJnanXqVI+BjfgsnOlV4vkipJnS 41J0tVTukWOPOscDGYa4I16EcXa5uBkJMg3jfzhw9s6TQ8A4XOq5+d47e8489ix7oQcn VsbWWMWEHXc9uVhWrVMKPcBzalYexpG30PZxL+7ntCrKjhMvY6HQ1VIh753VbIl7MDpF D8/w/UF2gHxC+dWL0pelR1w8RJ7Z/vWBj4/oLCA4nFqAVlaCLudXDV/PXjR/2MZOx8Uf 5kBA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnRhm2yy0pedTULKWprdJelEpOmtsr90ItRK+T7IwG5yz+TiH946KC6ZSR4iwi8CI8mkv928nPsGd7+i4laIeVBK/VI5NVifE9ViXU31mQLwyt7Zm4= MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.34.133 with SMTP id i127mr17358744ioi.150.1452999099076; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 18:51:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.107.62.69 with HTTP; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 18:51:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.107.62.69 with HTTP; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 18:51:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 20:51:39 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Finding your niche (Re: Want a Mentor) From: William A Rowe Jr To: ComDev Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1140ef8428e7f305297eb753 --001a1140ef8428e7f305297eb753 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pawal, and other newcomers, Absolutely the best was to become a contributor is to begin by becoming a user of one or more projects! In time, you will find some shortcoming or missing feature that would make your work easier or make your life better. That's the 'ah hah' moment when you can dig into the source code, and whip up a patch that benefits you. We call that 'scratching your own itch'. By the time you bring that patch back to the project you will have some familiarity with the project, as a user, and a beginning understanding of the code underneath the project. At that point, asking for a mentor to help you refine your patch and have it accepted and incorporated into the project is a terrific help. Each project has their own approach and collaborative style, even though all operate somewhat similarly. A mentor can be a big help with constructive criticism and encouragement. Best of luck! On Jan 15, 2016 00:53, "Pawe=C5=82 K=C5=82os" wrote: Hi, Definitely I agree with Jain. I'm a newcomer also. Up to this moment I was silently crawling Apache project searching for a project I could take a part of. Only added value is that I found many interesting Apache projects that I'll use at work, but still don't know how to (in practice) contribute to one. Regards, Pawel Klos On 2016-01-14 21:34, Kapil Jain wrote: > No problem Patricia. Yes, it would be very helpful if Apache can have a > help wanted page, with needs and required skills and may be complexity of > theissue. It will be very helpful for any newcomer. I have spent 1-2 hrs > today going thru almost all incubate projects, still no luck with finding= a > way to start/ take a first step. > > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 3:28 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: > > I'm sorry - I thought you had already selected Hadoop. I don't know any >> alternative to picking projects, browsing their developer lists, and >> seeing >> if anything interests you. >> >> Maybe Apache needs a "Help wanted" web page where projects can list thei= r >> needs? >> >> >> On 1/14/2016 12:24 PM, Kapil Jain wrote: >> >> Yes, at a high level - however its providing details about version >>> controlling. feedback/ bugs reporting etc. >>> >>> I'm looking for a suitable project for me I can start understanding it >>> and >>> then contributing to it. >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 3:11 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote= : >>> >>> Have you read http://www.apache.org/dev/contributors? >>> >>>> >>>> On 1/14/2016 11:59 AM, Kapil Jain wrote: >>>> >>>> Still struggling to find a project and take my first step. Looking for >>>> >>>>> mentor who can just help me in getting started. >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:57 PM, Kapil Jain >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Can someone please help me in finding out a suitable project where I >>>>> can >>>>> >>>>> contribute? I'm more interested in Hadoop and Java. But can work on >>>>>> another >>>>>> project and/ or language. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:33 AM, Ross Gardler < >>>>>> Ross.Gardler@microsoft.com >>>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Welcome. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please see details of the process at >>>>>>> http://community.apache.org/mentoringprogramme.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It should be noted that 95% of the work is on your side. Success in >>>>>>> open >>>>>>> source is about self motivation and self management. The other 5% i= s >>>>>>> about >>>>>>> asking for help when you hit a barrier. The above link should provi= de >>>>>>> enough info to get you started. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my Windows Phone >>>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>>> From: Kapil Jain >>>>>>> Sent: =E2=80=8E1/=E2=80=8E11/=E2=80=8E2016 8:24 AM >>>>>>> To: dev@community.apache.org >>>>>>> Subject: Want a Mentor >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would like to join apache mentorship programme and want to >>>>>>> contribute >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> Apache Hadoop project. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have Java skills required for the project. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm unable to figure out how to contribute. Please assist. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Kapil >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> --001a1140ef8428e7f305297eb753--