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From Jim Jagielski <...@jaguNET.com>
Subject Re: Ambiguous wording in http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#pmc
Date Fri, 08 Jan 2016 18:23:44 GMT
No, chairs do NOT have to be members.

> On Jan 8, 2016, at 12:10 PM, Julian Hyde <jhyde@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> And the phrase "may include one of more other members" implies that
> the chair must be an ASF member. If that is a requirement I am in
> breah of it (I am a PMC chair but not an ASF member).
> 
> Julian
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 8:34 AM, sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The page http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#pmc
>> 
>> says:
>> 
>>>> 
>> The Project Management Committees are established by resolution of the
>> Board, to be responsible for the active management of one or more
>> communities, which are also identified by resolution of the Board.
>> 
>> Each PMC consists of at least one officer of the ASF, who shall be
>> designated chairperson, and may include one or more other members of
>> the ASF.
>> 
>> The chair of the PMC is appointed by the Board and is an officer of
>> the ASF (Vice President).
>> <<
>> 
>> I think the second para is confusing/plain wrong. I read it as follows:
>> 
>> The first 2 phrases imply that there is a pool of officers who may
>> become chairperson, when AIUI appointment to chairperson is what makes
>> them an officer.
>> 
>> The last phrase appears to suggest that only ASF members may be PMC members.
>> However many PMCs include one or more non-members.
>> 
>> Please could the wording be clarified?
>> 
>> S.


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