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From Aris Siarot <>
Subject Re: Passion and vigilance in open source
Date Thu, 24 Sep 2015 00:22:56 GMT

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> On Sep 24, 2015, at 4:59 AM, William A Rowe Jr <> wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 9:01 PM, Jim Jagielski <> wrote:
>> Wonder is not being able to fork a project, make some patches,
>> submit a bunch of pull requests and then get a handful of them
>> committed upstream... That is so.... solitary. The wonder is
>> working *with* and collaborating *with* and reaching consensus
>> *with* a group of similarly-minded individuals towards a
>> common goal. The wonder is the community. And I think that
>> that is something which is at risk.
> There is some good psych theory that would be helpful in
> understanding the dichotomy you describe, and I think it's
> existed before the OSS revolution and continues through today.
> You just did a great job of describing your approach, and mine
> and many others at the foundation who are extroverts.  We enjoy
> the interaction, and when a community is healthy, enjoy providing
> positive feedback loops, encouragement and praise, and the
> ultimate praise (to have ones code committed to the project).
> Spending a weekend with my kids, who are both introverts, helps
> remind me of the needs of those who are not 'public people'.  We
> have many successful examples, I'm thinking especially of Sam
> or even Rich who are actually much quieter and reserved and
> generally 'go off into their own space' to accomplish things, and
> thrive in the solitary spaces where they can assemble something
> they are happy with.  All of our many introverts then bring back
> Cool Things(TM) and interact with the community to get them
> accepted, but the "fun" for them is the detached-creative process,
> while the "fun" for the extroverts is the communal nature of the
> whole collaborative development effort.
> You might enjoy taking your own Meyers Briggs assessment and
> compare notes with friends or collaborators on different projects
> and social groups.  It goes a long way in bridging the understanding
> gaps between these very different approaches to contributions,
> collaboration and assembling a collective work :)  Plenty of free
> tests to pick from on the web.
>> To me, Open Source provided an avenue that allowed coders
>> (and other contributors) to finally work together, openly
>> and honestly, transparently and meritocractically (if you get
>> my meaning); it fostered sharing, but not by letting someone
>> share our toys by playing with them by themselves in some corner
>> of the sandbox. It was about us all sharing the toys to build
>> a great sand castle all together in that sandbox, when before
>> we couldn't.
>> Are people doing it for fun? Are people seeing the joy and
>> wonder in our eyes? Or are people doing it just because "that's
>> what I get paid to do"?
> I expect both, just as I hope we have room for introverts and
> extroverts to accomplish exactly what you describe, sharing the
> toys to ultimately build the biggest collaborative sand castle that
> we can be proud of together, but with very different motivations
> and senses of reward :)

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