Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DB07C188C8 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 01:19:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 64483 invoked by uid 500); 21 Aug 2015 01:19:22 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@community.apache.org Received: (qmail 64111 invoked by uid 500); 21 Aug 2015 01:19:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@community.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@community.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@community.apache.org Received: (qmail 64099 invoked by uid 99); 21 Aug 2015 01:19:21 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO spamd4-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 01:19:21 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd4-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd4-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 76F5CC0BE3 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 01:19:21 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd4-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.999 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.999 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=disabled Received: from mx1-us-east.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd4-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.11]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id df9egaAR9D9K for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 01:19:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-io0-f169.google.com (mail-io0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by mx1-us-east.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-us-east.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 91F2C42B46 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 01:19:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iodv127 with SMTP id v127so66126557iod.3 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2015 18:19:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=6UwD7zyX3d+aNoLfy6AaGnFP57GCeB4cqzX8v0ZGClc=; b=ewd21lZlk1Rxcixxgmo6tIM77K+kYhALl5BqzxwFXpBVLye0xdQUF8jQKJ/FmCirVn 0YrSifk6e0osLRsb3rLNkhrf4RyY3m4qLWHtxumIoai+ksnHHa6eyYx5id4FEVRkcdSB 3x+/wiE+IbSwvGyKJziQWrGZuubQsrq/nWW9FA2m+EeFYof9qqywnwYaTVA2cBgeuuOx JNhz/mmv0LaWkRIhpxhRROwkNAxao9j5ci/8UxbPTBSA+rWTW7Vn6xJNfhs4wDFlzyXH E7yQXpWRiy7i36TxOt+6sQr9qLW5NLFQPPE0n8QINayPtdRhdNkii41T5XSOi8uHHz9j WTxQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkZwvftbacY0Hymrtf40gO5UZXyJLsbOteWONjV8PdN7CI0w9QkyaBYYKXj1nsn9uyXLYXB MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.137.195 with SMTP id t64mr5493940ioi.150.1440119953155; Thu, 20 Aug 2015 18:19:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.107.41.9 with HTTP; Thu, 20 Aug 2015 18:19:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [76.252.112.72] Received: by 10.107.41.9 with HTTP; Thu, 20 Aug 2015 18:19:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 20:19:13 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at ASF? From: William A Rowe Jr To: general@incubator.apache.org Cc: ComDev Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113eceac3dfcb6051dc80e58 --001a113eceac3dfcb6051dc80e58 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Aug 20, 2015 7:39 PM, "Alex Harui" wrote: > > > > On 8/20/15, 5:27 PM, "William A Rowe Jr" wrote: > > >It is generally AL code all the time. I don't know where you invented a > >'kick-in' concept, but unless the committers are violating their > >ICLA/CCLA, > >nothing could be further from the truth. > > Committers sometimes make mistakes. IIRC, Justin recently caught a > mistake where some files accidentally got their non-AL headers replaced > with AL headers. > > Large codebase contributions, especially initial podling code grants might > be messy as well until scrubbed and approved for an official ASF release. > I know from experience. We don't disagree on this point. Sometimes, they are caught through the release process, or by peer review. Other times, we must retract the claim we offered. Nothing changes the fact that code is either offered under the AL 2.0 or another license, unless the author/licensor changes their license retroactively. --001a113eceac3dfcb6051dc80e58--