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From sebb <seb...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at ASF?
Date Mon, 17 Aug 2015 08:21:44 GMT
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On 16 August 2015 at 21:33, Roman Shaposhnik <roman@shaposhnik.org> wrote:
> This email echoing keeps happening. I thought we've dealt with it, no?
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>> Roman Shaposhnik <roman@shaposhnik.org> 於 2015年8月17日 04:25 寫道:
>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Shane Curcuru <asf@shanecurcuru.org> wrote:
>>>> On 8/7/15 7:53 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
>>>> Bill,
>>>> So I can release "Niclas Hadoop platform, based on Apache Hadoop" ?? I
>>>> thought the discussion a few years ago was that this was misleading...
>>>
>>> No, you cannot.  See our actual trademark policy:
>>>
>>>  https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/faq/#products
>>>
>>> Our release policy, as Roman originally asked about, applies only to ASF
>>> projects, and has no bearing on third parties.  However our trademark
>>> policy, and trademark law, prevents third parties from publicly
>>> providing software using our trademarks.
>>>
>>> Our operational policies only apply to our projects, just like any other
>>> corporation.  Some policies, like our license itself and our formal
>>> trademark policy, inform the rest of the world how they are allowed to
>>> use our websites, software code, and brands.
>>>
>>> Make sense?
>>
>> It does, but our relationships with downstream Linux vendors
>> (just to take the most obvious example) set a very confusing
>> precedent.
>>
>> Shane, if would be super helpful if you took a look at:
>>   http://pkgs.org/search/hadoop
>>   http://pkgs.org/search/maven
>>   http://pkgs.org/search/subversion
>> and pubished your narrative of how the ASF branding
>> policies apply in both cases.
>>
>> The 3 projects I'm picking represent a pretty diverse
>> set of cases of how PMCs are conducting themselves.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Roman.

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