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From Ulrich Stärk <...@spielviel.de>
Subject Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at ASF?
Date Wed, 19 Aug 2015 22:18:52 GMT
So how would you distinguish a spammer's subscription request from that of a valid user? I
certainly
can't from looking at the email address alone.

Uli

On 17.08.15 14:46, sebb wrote:
> On 17 August 2015 at 10:52, Gavin McDonald <gavin@16degrees.com.au> wrote:
>> So I checked the config for dev@community and it is set up as a normal dev@ list
operates.
>>
>> Therefore anyone can subscribe to the list and post.
>>
>> The only thing we can do here is change it to subscription moderation - that is an
on|off switch so therefore
>> ALL subscription requests will have to be approved by a moderator.
>>
>> If you are ok with that I can make the change .
> 
> +1 from me.
> 
> 
>> I checked the logs and it looks like a mod has removed the subscription for the user
in this thread.
> 
> That was me, sorry forgot to let the list know.
> 
>> Let me know,
>>
>> Gav…
>>
>>> On 17 Aug 2015, at 9:48 am, Ross Gardler <Ross.Gardler@microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Not sure if it's possible (you reply made me think I may be mixing up Google
Groups features with our lists)
>>>
>>> Sent from my Windows Phone
>>> From: jan i <mailto:jani@apache.org>
>>> Sent: ‎8/‎17/‎2015 1:44 AM
>>> To: dev@community.apache.org <mailto:dev@community.apache.org>
>>> Cc: Roman Shaposhnik <mailto:roman@shaposhnik.org>; Apache Infrastructure
<mailto:infrastructure@apache.org>
>>> Subject: Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at ASF?
>>>
>>> On 17 August 2015 at 10:24, Ross Gardler <Ross.Gardler@microsoft.com <mailto:Ross.Gardler@microsoft.com>>
wrote:
>>>
>>>> Moderating first posts would be better.
>>>>
>>> +1 to that solution (did not know that was possible), that way the
>>> moderators to not get overloaded with work.
>>>
>>> Alternative would be to allow apache ID, and moderate others.
>>>
>>> rgds
>>> jan i.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com <mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com>]
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 1:22 AM
>>>> To: Roman Shaposhnik <roman@shaposhnik.org <mailto:roman@shaposhnik.org>>
>>>> Cc: ComDev <dev@community.apache.org <mailto:dev@community.apache.org>>;
Apache Infrastructure <
>>>> infrastructure@apache.org <mailto:infrastructure@apache.org>>
>>>> Subject: Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at ASF?
>>>>
>>>> This is a new subscription (send an e-mail to dev-log@community.a.o <mailto:dev-log@community.a.o>
for
>>>> details)
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps we need to consider moderated subscriptions for this list.
>>>>
>>>> On 16 August 2015 at 21:33, Roman Shaposhnik <roman@shaposhnik.org <mailto:roman@shaposhnik.org>>
wrote:
>>>>> This email echoing keeps happening. I thought we've dealt with it, no?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> From: 田義忠 <name0905189282@icloud.com <mailto:name0905189282@icloud.com>>
>>>>> Date: Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 1:27 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at
>>>> ASF?
>>>>> To: "dev@community.apache.org <mailto:dev@community.apache.org>"
<dev@community.apache.org <mailto:dev@community.apache.org>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 從我的 iPhone 傳送
>>>>>
>>>>>> Roman Shaposhnik <roman@shaposhnik.org <mailto:roman@shaposhnik.org>>
於 2015年8月17日 04:25 寫道:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Shane Curcuru <asf@shanecurcuru.org
<mailto:asf@shanecurcuru.org>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8/7/15 7:53 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
>>>>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>>>> So I can release "Niclas Hadoop platform, based on Apache
Hadoop"
>>>>>>>> ?? I thought the discussion a few years ago was that this
was
>>>> misleading...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, you cannot.  See our actual trademark policy:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fwww
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fwww>
>>>>>>> .apache.org <http://apache.org/>%2ffoundation%2fmarks%2ffaq%2f%23products&data=01%7c01%7c
>>>>>>> ross.gardler%40microsoft.com <http://40microsoft.com/>%7c53be77cdd3ef4dca285308d2a6dced17%7c72
>>>>>>> f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=DdcuJh%2bbhphaiy7yoW%2f2caG
>>>>>>> y15TIxfrsXg1V%2fHh9Jsg%3d
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Our release policy, as Roman originally asked about, applies
only to
>>>>>>> ASF projects, and has no bearing on third parties.  However our
>>>>>>> trademark policy, and trademark law, prevents third parties from
>>>>>>> publicly providing software using our trademarks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Our operational policies only apply to our projects, just like
any
>>>>>>> other corporation.  Some policies, like our license itself and
our
>>>>>>> formal trademark policy, inform the rest of the world how they
are
>>>>>>> allowed to use our websites, software code, and brands.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Make sense?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It does, but our relationships with downstream Linux vendors (just
to
>>>>>> take the most obvious example) set a very confusing precedent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shane, if would be super helpful if you took a look at:
>>>>>>
>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fpkgs.org%2fsearch%2fhadoop&data=01%7c01%7cross.gardler%40microsoft.com%7c53be77cdd3ef4dca285308d2a6dced17%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=ZXiKGbcB8ekfCts3JOcHVPYpX35xcqfr87Adbmf77%2f8%3d
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fpkgs.org%2fsearch%2fhadoop&data=01%7c01%7cross.gardler%40microsoft.com%7c53be77cdd3ef4dca285308d2a6dced17%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=ZXiKGbcB8ekfCts3JOcHVPYpX35xcqfr87Adbmf77%2f8%3d>
>>>>>>
>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fpkgs.org%2fsearch%2fmaven&data=01%7c01%7cross.gardler%40microsoft.com%7c53be77cdd3ef4dca285308d2a6dced17%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=bbku3kk8GRT8rNXWo5gwhRfpWIOoouH%2buNNzmrCpI0I%3d
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fpkgs.org%2fsearch%2fmaven&data=01%7c01%7cross.gardler%40microsoft.com%7c53be77cdd3ef4dca285308d2a6dced17%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=bbku3kk8GRT8rNXWo5gwhRfpWIOoouH%2buNNzmrCpI0I%3d>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fpkgs
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fpkgs>.
>>>>>> org%2fsearch%2fsubversion&data=01%7c01%7cross.gardler%40microsoft.com
<http://40microsoft.com/>
>>>>>> %7c53be77cdd3ef4dca285308d2a6dced17%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db4
>>>>>> 7%7c1&sdata=BEHyTF%2b6dOsaARgvSX3%2bp1gWPkiVjbg7wODXVv2tzA8%3d
>>>>>> and pubished your narrative of how the ASF branding policies apply
in
>>>>>> both cases.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The 3 projects I'm picking represent a pretty diverse set of cases
of
>>>>>> how PMCs are conducting themselves.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Roman.
>>>>
>>
>> Gav...
>>
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