Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8DCB518969 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2015 09:01:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 18318 invoked by uid 500); 3 Jul 2015 09:01:23 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@community.apache.org Received: (qmail 17990 invoked by uid 500); 3 Jul 2015 09:01:23 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@community.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@community.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@community.apache.org Received: (qmail 17979 invoked by uid 99); 3 Jul 2015 09:01:23 -0000 Received: from mail-relay.apache.org (HELO mail-relay.apache.org) (140.211.11.15) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 03 Jul 2015 09:01:23 +0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f179.google.com (mail-wi0-f179.google.com [209.85.212.179]) by mail-relay.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mail-relay.apache.org) with ESMTPSA id C525F1A0348 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2015 09:01:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by widjy10 with SMTP id jy10so104549972wid.1 for ; Fri, 03 Jul 2015 02:01:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.83.135 with SMTP id q7mr24378560wiy.17.1435914080613; Fri, 03 Jul 2015 02:01:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.28.51.202 with HTTP; Fri, 3 Jul 2015 02:01:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5592DA29.6030605@rcbowen.com> <559558A7.7050000@shanecurcuru.org> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 11:01:20 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Better specifying the scope of our Code of Conduct From: Bertrand Delacretaz To: dev Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi, On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Pierre Smits wrote: > ...when at least one of its members in more than one occasion states that > projects are independent (of the ASF) regarding how they conduct their > business - except for the license aspect - it is rendered a paper tiger... ASF projects are largely independent *when it comes to technical matters*, but as far as governance there's a number of invariants that are ASF-wide. This code of conduct is one of those invariants. -Bertrand