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From David Nalley <>
Subject Re: displaying incorrect data - who is responsible for the host?
Date Fri, 10 Jul 2015 03:30:52 GMT
On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 7:38 PM, sebb <> wrote:
> On 9 July 2015 at 22:20, Mike Kienenberger <> wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Mike Kienenberger <> wrote:
>>> I noticed that the new reporter output now contains "LDAP" in a way
>>> that makes it sound like "LDAP" is the project name.   Is this
>>> intentional?   It seems awkward and unnecessary to have "LDAP" in
>>> there instead of "PMC", and when I read the first report containing
>>> that verbiage, I thought there was was copy&paste error in the report.
>> As I read through the previous emails in the thread, I'm pretty sure
>> it was intentional.
>> My opinion is that it would be far more readable to state it like this:
>> ==============
>> ## PMC/Committership changes (from LDAP):
> Perhaps, but PMC membership is not governed by LDAP committee group changes
> It is not unknown for the LDAP group to be updated a long while before
> (or after) the PMC membership changes (indicated by updating the
> committee-info.txt file).
> A person may be on the PMC but not in LDAP and vice versa.
> Therefore it is wrong for the site to equate the two.

The above is strictly true, however, being in LDAP results in being
granted the karma for several things that a PMC member might need
(mail-search karma for a project, access to the projects private svn
tree, etc)
I don't think that the reporter site is looking to be a canonical
source of truth, so perhaps LDAP records are close enough.
Particularly since a committer account is LDAP based, so looking at a
single source of information for both PMC and committer stats, even if
not necessarily the canonical source of that information, seems at
least pragmatic, even though there is a chance of inaccuracy.

> [I am hopeful that the site will be able to use the correct source
> data eventually, but that is waiting on getting suitable access
> rights]
> There is a separate issue which is that not all PMCs equate committers
> with LDAP. For example, Subversion and Commons allow any ASF committer
> to update their SVN tree, so they don't maintain the group.
> Furthermore, I'm not sure the LDAP unix groups are used for Git-based projects.

LDAP groups are used exclusively for git.
svn is a good deal more flexible from a permissions perspective.

>>  - Currently 76 committers and 39 PMC members in the project.
>>  - Hazem Saleh was added to the PMC on Fri May 15 2015
>>  - New commmitters:
>>     - Bill Lucy was added as a committer on Tue Jun 23 2015
>>     - Ross Clewley was added as a committer on Mon May 18 2015
>>     - Thomas Andraschko was added as a committer on Thu Jul 02 2015
>>     - Dennis Kieselhorst was added as a committer on Mon May 11 2015
>> ==============

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