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From jan i <j...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Moving Apache Extras
Date Mon, 13 Jul 2015 20:23:35 GMT
On Monday, July 13, 2015, Rich Bowen <rbowen@rcbowen.com> wrote:

>
>
> On 07/13/2015 04:00 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:
>
>> Apache-extras is a service managed by ComDev. Though we never provided
>> any commitment to support it.
>>
>> However, many extras (most?) are used by  ASF PMCs and they need a
>> solution to the fact that Google Code is closing down. We are doing this
>> with infra resources for that reason (as a director you've seen the
>> repeated requests from some PMCs to find a resolution, you've also seen the
>> responses to those requests).
>>
>> It's easier for Infra to move all projects rather than some projects.
>> Hence the current approach. Though you are correct, as noted on a different
>> thread, that the assumption all projects on extras belong to PMCs is likely
>> flawed. Unfortunately there is no easy way of identifying which are PMC
>> owned and which are not.
>>
>> So here's an alternative approach. We (ComDev) send out a mail to PMCs
>> indicating that they need to great a ComDev issue if they want their
>> project moving. If they don't sign up they don't get moved.
>>
>> We (ComDev) provide infra with a reduced list of projects to move and
>> they run the scripts for those projects.
>>
>
> I think I must have been watching all of these conversations (I know it's
> been going for more than a year) with a certain understanding that we were
> going to push everything onto volunteer labor rather than Infra. So, mea
> culpa for not paying close enough attention. Yes, I know that this has been
> discussed for *ages*.
>
> I figured that what we, the ASF, were doing for these projects was
> negotiating with SF for the service/resources/whatever, not doing the
> actual migration. I figured either the projects themselves would do that
> work, or Roberto and his team at SF would do it.

that was my understanding as well. AOO moved a while ago.

We should notify the PMCs how to move, and leave the rest to volunteer time.

rgds
jan i

>
> --Rich
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Windows Phone
>> ________________________________
>> From: Rich Bowen<mailto:rbowen@rcbowen.com>
>> Sent: ‎7/‎13/‎2015 12:47 PM
>> To: dev@community.apache.org<mailto:dev@community.apache.org>
>> Subject: Re: Moving Apache Extras
>>
>>
>>
>> On 07/09/2015 02:42 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote:
>>
>>> Hiya folks,
>>>
>>> I'm the "lucky person" in charge of moving the some 350 projects from
>>> Google Code to SourceForge.
>>> This will happen over the course of next week, save some freak accident
>>> occurs, however, SourceForge is not Google Code, and as such, there are
>>> a few things we need to consider:
>>>
>>
>> Wait what?
>>
>> Are you doing this because you're a nice person, or because it's an
>> Infra Assignment?
>>
>> I ask because it seems a really iffy precedent giving paid infra support
>> to non-ASF projects. Tell me you're doing this for scotch rather than
>> for money, and I'll back off. I know you do wear many different hats.
>>
>> --Rich
>>
>>
>>> - I will create an admin account that will initially own all the
>>> imported projects. This can/will be shared with the ComDev PMC.
>>> - Someone (not me!!) will have to step up and help out with delegating
>>> read/write access to the new repos on SourceForge.
>>> - Preferably, someone will have to go through the giant list of
>>> projects, and select those we'll import. This is not strictly necessary,
>>> but if someone volunteers for this, that'd be super duper.
>>>
>>> The most important thing is that we are able to delegate write access to
>>> the devs (and do so!), so this does not simply become a big data dump
>>> that just sits there. If any of you are interested in taking on that
>>> task (preferably more than one person), please do speak up :)
>>>
>>> With regards,
>>> Daniel.
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
>> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
>>
>>
>
> --
> Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
>


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