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From Pierre Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Incubating, Graduating & Code of conduct @ The ASF (spin-off of Better specifying....)
Date Fri, 10 Jul 2015 10:56:11 GMT
Tim,

It seems you're rather fond of it. Quite the number of posters in this
thread are particpating in either body, or both. I feel confident that they
can take it as input from here and discuss appropriate follow-up in their
specific mailing lists.

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

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On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Tim Williams <williamstw@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Pierre Smits <pierre.smits@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Branko,
> >
> > I am confident that the existing project with bylaws, policies and/or
> > standing rules formalised has had its share of discussions regarding
> > applicability of elements therein.. And have resolved those. I guess that
> > when such an element is either to vague or to restrictive so that the
> > situation becomes untenable to move things forward, the community will
> find
> > ways to resolve it.
> >
> > This thread is about:
> >
> >
> >    - why does the Board tasks projects to create a set of bylaws for some
> >    graduating podlings (when so many seem to feel that it doesn't add
> value);
> >    - and when it does, why doesn't it  follow up on the task or request
> the
> >    VP of the project to report on its progress until the task is
> completed.
> >
> > It has to come from somewhere. It seems to come to light during the
> > incubation phase. Don't mentors advice properly?
>
> I reckon the answer to these questions is simply that we've all
> realized over a long period of time that project-specific bylaws -
> while once popular and thought necessary - aren't desirable.  We
> thought they were necessary a decade ago and over the course of time
> realized not so much. And, while we've all come to that realization,
> no one has taken the time to change the TLP resolution to reflect
> that. And that's likely because most of us don't have bureaucratic
> itches - you apparently do, so why not just ask the incubator
> PMC/board to drop that paragraph?
>
> Thanks,
> --tim
>

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