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From Dave Brondsema <d...@brondsema.net>
Subject Re: Apache Extras, Google Code and Sourceforge
Date Tue, 07 Jul 2015 15:17:45 GMT
On 6/24/15 3:53 PM, David Nalley wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
> <Ross.Gardler@microsoft.com> wrote:
>> Edited out private stuff and moved to ComDev list since we are now making decisions
about Apache Extras
>>
>> To your options below:
>>
>> We've always said Apache will provide no management of this other than to make it
available. To this end I propose we do b) (only the projects that are original to Apache Extras),
which includes projects with no content.
>>
>> In terms of the name clash is it possible to provide a list of the 39 affected projects?
If so then we can prune any that are empty from that shorter list and attempt to notify the
owners of the others. Failing any response asking us to do otherwise I suggest we add an "ax-"
prefix to those project names (I am assuming this is just the project name in URLs and similar).
>>
> 
> The collisions are at the bottom of this paste.:
> https://paste.apache.org/4hpd

This paste has expired.  Can it be re-posted?

> 
> You'll notice some are things like 'maven' which is interesting,
> because we have Maven as a TLP.
> But on closer inspection - Maven seems to have no content:
> https://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/maven/source/browse/#svn%2Ftrunk
> 
> Similar story on Jena and a number of others.
> 
> --David
> 
>> One other thing that will need to be done once migration is complete is an update
of DNS. http://apache-extras.com currently redirects to https://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/hosting/

And two more things after migration:

* The Google Code project landing page content has no equivalent (it can't fit
into the SourceForge project description field automatically) so that will have
to be manually handled by each project.  Depends on the content, it shouldn't be
hard but will have to be copied into the project description field if it fits or
turned into a wiki page if it doesn't.

* Mark each project as moved on the Google Code side.  Instructions at
https://sourceforge.net/p/forge/documentation/Google%20Code%20Importer/#whats-next

>>
>> Finally we'll need to read over the FAQ to update appropriately (I can do that) -
http://community.apache.org/apache-extras/faq.html
>>
>> Ross
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Nalley [mailto:ke4qqq@apache.org]
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 9:09 AM
>> To: Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
>> Cc: Jim Jagielski
>> Subject: Re: Apache Extras, Google Code and Sourceforge
>>
>> So dropping the SF folks again.
>>
>> Some updates on what we've found.
>> In total, there are around 350 projects in the A-E directory on google code.
>>
>> Of those 350, 161 are mirrors of content from elsewhere. Some of them are even mirrors
of other projects within Apache Extras, which is just bewildering.
>>
>> That leaves us with 189 projects that are original with us. In doing some spot checking,
we've discovered that many of those contain zero content, or perhaps only a single commit,
with no material code.
>> Daniel believes that perhaps as many as 1/2 of the original projects contain nothing
meaningful.
>>
>> In short, migrating all 350 doesn't seem to make a lot of sense, and I'd argue makes
it more difficult to find anything of value.
>>
>> We did do checking on the ~189 projects that are original to us, 150 of those we
could migrate straight away (subject to the above
>> comments) however,  39 have name conflicts at SourceForge, so we would need to rename
them.
>>
>> That leaves us with a few questions:
>> Does ComDev want us to migrate:
>> a) all 350
>> b) only the projects that are original at Apache Extras
>> c) only the projects at Apache Extras that are original and actually have content
- and if c) - please provide a list.
>>
>> What would ComDev like to rename the projects where naming collisions are in place?
>>
>> --David
> 



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