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From "Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)" <Ross.Gard...@microsoft.com>
Subject RE: Apache Extras, Google Code and Sourceforge
Date Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:44:24 GMT
Yes, we will send a mail to PMCs when we have decided what we are going to do. I don’t want
150+ PMCs asking for 10 different approaches, but if any are reading here and have an interest
then I'm all ears.

Ross

-----Original Message-----
From: jan i [mailto:jani@apache.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 10:23 AM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Cc: David Nalley; Jim Jagielski
Subject: Re: Apache Extras, Google Code and Sourceforge

On 24 June 2015 at 19:05, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) < Ross.Gardler@microsoft.com>
wrote:

> Edited out private stuff and moved to ComDev list since we are now 
> making decisions about Apache Extras
>
> To your options below:
>
> We've always said Apache will provide no management of this other than 
> to make it available. To this end I propose we do b) (only the 
> projects that are original to Apache Extras), which includes projects with no content.
>
> In terms of the name clash is it possible to provide a list of the 39 
> affected projects? If so then we can prune any that are empty from 
> that shorter list and attempt to notify the owners of the others. 
> Failing any response asking us to do otherwise I suggest we add an 
> "ax-" prefix to those project names (I am assuming this is just the 
> project name in URLs and similar).
>
> One other thing that will need to be done once migration is complete 
> is an update of DNS. http://apache-extras.com currently redirects to 
> https://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/hosting/
>
> Finally we'll need to read over the FAQ to update appropriately (I can 
> do
> that) - http://community.apache.org/apache-extras/faq.html
>

After having read the mail from David (and still a bit chocked of the
wilderness) I too recommend b)

We should consider sending an email to all the other projects, so they cannot say they were
not informed (if such a mail can be generated).

rgds
jan i.



> Ross
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Nalley [mailto:ke4qqq@apache.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 9:09 AM
> To: Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
> Cc: Jim Jagielski
> Subject: Re: Apache Extras, Google Code and Sourceforge
>
> So dropping the SF folks again.
>
> Some updates on what we've found.
> In total, there are around 350 projects in the A-E directory on google 
> code.
>
> Of those 350, 161 are mirrors of content from elsewhere. Some of them 
> are even mirrors of other projects within Apache Extras, which is just 
> bewildering.
>
> That leaves us with 189 projects that are original with us. In doing 
> some spot checking, we've discovered that many of those contain zero 
> content, or perhaps only a single commit, with no material code.
> Daniel believes that perhaps as many as 1/2 of the original projects 
> contain nothing meaningful.
>
> In short, migrating all 350 doesn't seem to make a lot of sense, and 
> I'd argue makes it more difficult to find anything of value.
>
> We did do checking on the ~189 projects that are original to us, 150 
> of those we could migrate straight away (subject to the above
> comments) however,  39 have name conflicts at SourceForge, so we would 
> need to rename them.
>
> That leaves us with a few questions:
> Does ComDev want us to migrate:
> a) all 350
> b) only the projects that are original at Apache Extras
> c) only the projects at Apache Extras that are original and actually 
> have content - and if c) - please provide a list.
>
> What would ComDev like to rename the projects where naming collisions 
> are in place?
>
> --David
>
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