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From Hervé BOUTEMY <herve.bout...@free.fr>
Subject Re: Is https://projects-new.apache.org/ ready for prime time?
Date Thu, 25 Jun 2015 05:53:54 GMT
Sebb,

as main maintainer of current http://projects.apache.org/ (AFAIK), are you ok 
with switching the url to the new service and renaming current service to 
projects-old (to let use time to continue content migration withotu loosing 
anything)? Do you see any show stopper?

Of course, I'm interested in your help to maintain the new projects site: 
don't hesitate to comment on or change the code.

Regards,

Hervé

Le dimanche 21 juin 2015 17:16:07 jan i a écrit :
> +1 switch as soon as possible, and then continue working on the data end.
> 
> rgds
> jan i
> 
> On Sunday, June 21, 2015, Hervé BOUTEMY <herve.boutemy@free.fr> wrote:
> > Le dimanche 21 juin 2015 15:54:29 jan i a écrit :
> > > On 21 June 2015 at 15:48, Daniel Gruno <humbedooh@apache.org
> > 
> > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > > > On 2015-06-21 02:45, Hervé BOUTEMY wrote:
> > > >> for me, the new site is ready: there is of course room for
> > 
> > improvements,
> > 
> > > >> but
> > > >> it is stable and maintainable, waiting for contributions
> > > >> 
> > > >> notice: I changed the wording to stop using "TLP", but use
> > > >> "Committee"
> > > >> instead, since TLP cause issues when trying to describe each projects
> > > >> (the
> > > >> software) as TLP or sub-projects
> > > >> 
> > > >> 
> > > >> when doing the switch, we'll need to rename current site as projects-
> > > >> old.apache.org: there is some content to migrate (DOAP,
> > 
> > documentation)
> > 
> > > >> associated to communication with projects on the changes that has
to
> > 
> > be
> > 
> > > >> decoupled from public vizualisation. I'll continue working on it.
> > > >> 
> > > >> There one choice to do: continue serving the pages from current VM
or
> > > >> serve
> > > >> through standard resilient httpds. The VM is useful for cron jobs,
> > 
> > but is
> > 
> > > >> not
> > > >> absolutely necessary for serving content since I removed online
> > 
> > content
> > 
> > > >> editing that caused the VM requirement for content serving AFAIK.
> > 
> > Using
> > 
> > > >> standard httpd will avoid SPOF or eventual load issue.
> > > > 
> > > > What do you mean by 'standard httpd'? It already uses...standard httpd
> > 
> > for
> > 
> > > > serving the site.
> > > > The cron jobs are needed for updating various statistics and data on
> > 
> > the
> > 
> > > > site, they can't just be shut off - they also power
> > 
> > reporter.apache.org.
> > 
> > > Maybe I misunderstood something, I understood that we are using httpd,
> > 
> > but
> > 
> > > in our own vm. In my opinion it would be nicer to use the www.a.o httpd
> > > (sorry
> > > vms have been changing lately so I am not sure where it runs), since
> > > that
> > > would put httpd maintenance on infra instead of comdev.
> > 
> > +1
> > that was what I mean by "standard httpd" (ie not the binary but the
> > machines
> > where it runs)
> > 
> > > > I think the site is ready for a more prominent role, but I find this
> > > > discussion confusing, and I find it somewhat sad that we're gonna
> > > > stick
> > > > with something as arcane as DOAP.
> > > 
> > > +100 !!
> > > 
> > > DOAP == Dead On Arrival Permanently :-) JSON == Jump Simply On New
> > > (but I know I am only 1 voice).
> > 
> > step by step, please: this will avoid confusion between independant topics
> > 
> > switching without disturbing current conventions/knowledge is something
> > that
> > already takes a long time and energy: I know it because I put a lot of
> > energy
> > on it for a few monthes now!
> > 
> > We started a discussion on this source format topic during april, and
> > AFAIK
> > nobody worked on it.
> > 
> > What I'd like now is to switch: we can discuss later on what we want to
> > change
> > (and communication to every comittees this requires).
> > With the new site, we'll be able to change formats if we want, the only
> > requirement is to have json files for the visualization
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Hervé
> > 
> > > rgds
> > > jan i.
> > > 
> > > > With regards,
> > > > Daniel.
> > > > 
> > > >> but definitely, the site is ready for the switch
> > > >> 
> > > >> Regards,
> > > >> 
> > > >> Hervé
> > > >> 
> > > >> Le vendredi 19 juin 2015 20:55:52 Sally Khudairi a écrit :
> > > >>> Hello Uli and the Apache ComDev team --I hope this message finds
you
> > > >>> well.
> > > >>> Per below, I'm interested in promoting the new Projects page.
> > > >>> Can you please let me know if/when we're ready to do so?
> > > >>> Thanks so much,
> > > >>> Sally
> > > >>> 
> > > >>>      ----- Forwarded Message -----
> > > >>>    
> > > >>>    From: David Nalley <david@gnsa.us <javascript:;>>
> > > >>>   
> > > >>>   To: Sally Khudairi <sallykhudairi@yahoo.com <javascript:;>>
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> Cc: Daniel Gruno <humbedooh@apache.org <javascript:;>>;
ASF
> > 
> > Infrastructure
> > 
> > > >>> <infrastructure@apache.org <javascript:;>> Sent: Friday,
June 19,
> > 
> > 2015 11:50 AM
> > 
> > > >>>   Subject: Re: Is https://projects-new.apache.org/ ready for prime
> > 
> > time?
> > 
> > > >>> Hi Sally:
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> projects-new.apache.org is a ComDev managed resource, not an
> > > >>> infrastructure managed resource. I think the PMC has had a
> > > >>> discussion
> > > >>> or two about when to migrate projects-new to projects.a.o
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> --David
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Sally Khudairi
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> <sallykhudairi@yahoo.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > > >>>> Hello Daniel and David --I hope you are both well.
> > > >>>> 
> > > >>>> 
> > > >>>> I was wondering if the new Projects page at
> > > >>>> 
> > > >>>> https://projects-new.apache.org/
> > > >>>> 
> > > >>>> was ready to be publicly deployed/announced/promoted.
> > > >>>> 
> > > >>>> There's so much great information there and it's an incredible
> > 
> > resource
> > 
> > > >>>> (I
> > > >>>> use it every week for the News Round-ups and we relied on
it for
> > > >>>> the
> > > >>>> Annual Report), if there's no reason why it should still be
in
> > 
> > stealth
> > 
> > > >>>> mode, I'd like to shout out about it from the rooftops.
> > > >>>> 
> > > >>>> Just let me know if we're good to go and if there are any
> > > >>>> disclaimers/caveats we should be aware of.
> > > >>>> 
> > > >>>> Warm thanks,
> > > >>>> Sally
> > > >>>> 
> > > >>>> 
> > > >>>> = = = = =
> > > >>>> vox +1 617 921 8656
> > > >>>> off2 +1 646 583 3362
> > > >>>> skype sallykhudairi


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